Obama needs to STOP fucking BOWING to everyone.

[LotsOfZeros]

Now THAT would be great. But seperation of church and state seems to be an issue a lot of countries still have not managed completely.

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It's hard to achieve because the churches represent a huge voting block, much like the labor unions. Appeal to churches/religion and gain an influx of willing voters.

 

[popeye]

Now THAT would be great. But seperation of church and state seems to be an issue a lot of countries still have not managed completely.

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Seperation of church and state in not in our constitution nor bill of rights. It was an idea taken out of context and twisted for use by the progressives, communist, socialst and marxist. This is why it's such an issue with Americans that actually take our constitution seriously.

 

[Ataraxy]

I think Bill Maher said it best last night. With the amount of money we owe China we're lucky he wasn't on his knees giving the guy a blowjob.

...and please keep retarded religion out of govt. Just as an aside, people we're getting uppity that there will no longer be a protestant represented in the supreme court. I for one, hope he chooses a staunch Atheist.

 

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Seperation of church and state in not in our constitution nor bill of rights. It was an idea taken out of context and twisted for use by the progressives, communist, socialst and marxist. This is why it's such an issue with Americans that actually take our constitution seriously.

Oh, I am not talking US here. Seperation of church and state is a great idea for any country.

Alas:

Christian Coalition and 700 Club leader Pat Robertson agrees with DeLay that “There is nothing in the US constitution that sanctifies the separation of church and state.” (“Voices of Extremism: The Radical Right in Their Own Words,” www.notso.com).


These assertions are false, as an informed reading of the Constitution’s intent regarding the separation of church and state proves. The First Amendment states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”


The assertions of DeLay and Robertson that there is no mention of the separation of church and state in the US Constitution is true only in the sense that the words “separation of church and state” are not used. But the Amendment was clearly intended to establish just such a separation.
In fact, this principle was already plainly indicated in the original articles of the Constitution, which predated the first 10 amendments, or Bill of Rights, by three years. (The Constitution was ratified in 1788; the Bill of Rights in 1791.) Article VI, Section III articulates the principle of separation of church and state by banning religious tests for holding public office. It states that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”


Dobson’s claim that the Constitution posits the Creator as the source of our inalienable rights runs up against one formidable problem: neither the word “God” nor the word “Creator” appears in the document.

From: Secularism and the American Constitution

And yes, I chose that site to piss you off.

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[85VicWagonGuy]

Actually I'd say most of the world has respect for the USA again since Obama came along. Can you imagine Sarah Palin as President? Then you''d see the entire world laughing.

They can laugh all they want as they stand in line for decades for so much as a US visitor's visa.

The US will be the greatest nation as long as it attracts the productive class from every other nation... which it always has.

America's success has a lot to do with genetics. The US is populated by the descendants of risk takers who left their feudal lands in search of hard work and a better future for their children.

"The old countries" are populated by the descendants of the slackers who stayed behind.

 

[LotsOfZeros]

They can laugh all they want as they stand in line for decades for so much as a US visitor's visa.

The US will be the greatest nation as long as it attracts the productive class from every other nation... which it always has.

America's success has a lot to do with genetics. The US is populated by the descendants of risk takers who left their feudal lands in search of hard work and a better future for their children.

"The old countries" are populated by the descendants of the slackers who stayed behind.

That may have been the case in the past but now we have a ruling class that gleans much of their power from a dependent under-class that they keep intentionally growing to centralize their power. Next thing they're trying to do is import more votes in the form of amnesty.

Once a country starts importing the slackers (instantly placing them on the welfare dole + free health care for illegals) and exporting the productive ones, the decline accelerates.

 

[guerilla]

America's success has a lot to do with genetics.

What nonsense. The success has to do with a system based on individual freedom and private property ownership which allowed the US to accumulate more capital in the 19th century than the rest of the world, and then clever political maneuvering in the 20th century when Europe destroyed all of its capital in two great wars.

Economic success always follows capital. Yes, being hard working may help accumulate capital, but the people under communism toiled like mad, and never achieved economic success.

Hitler tried to claim the German people were superior due to genetics. Such collectivist claims are dangerous and have led to genocides throughout history.

What sets nations, communities and individuals apart are their social traditions and standards, particularly with regard to private property rights.

 

[rgordon83]

America's success has a lot to do with genetics.

Really?!?!? Preaching Eugenics??? 'cause that hasn't lead to mass genocide at least a dozen times in the last century....