Occupy Wall Street

They should probably boycott the products of the "evil corporations" while they are at it.

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Everyone out there is protesting about the banks taking our money and the government giving it to them. Well...Everyone needs to wake up and realize, they aren't taking shit. Were all giving it to them. You want the banks to suffer? Stop giving them your money. Fuck the credit score!!! Why do you need "CREDIT" ? So you can buy a car, or a house, or other shit that you dont have money for? We have all bought into the game of "credit" thinking we need this credit score to succeed in life. Well we dont...

The reason we are are all broke and pissed off is because we buy shit we dont need. And then we are in debt and have to pay twice as much for all these things that we dont need. We are over-consumers and are dependent on "stuff" to make us happy. We are all losing our jobs and can no longer buy the crap we used to and now were pissed. This is good, maybe this will make us realize we didn't need it in the first place.

You wanna make a difference??? Change yourself!!! Wake up and realize what is really going on. Not with the banks but with YOU. We give them the power they have. We are responsible for them being alive and so big. WHY are we really so upset? We dont know who we are. We think we are all this stuff that we buy. And now we cant buy it and we are lost.

Changing the system is only a temporary fix. We need to look inside and change ourselves. No one can take our power. We freely give it to them. Once we know who we really are, the fears inside will not exist. Then we will have our power back. Then we will be partying on Wall Street. Celebrating life. And the world will want to join us not fight us.

Wake up....Get your power back
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Source A Movement is Born | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters

All I can add is, vote with your fuckin wallets. Think twice before buying anything, think about to whom you gonna give the money, not just the product itself.
 
This dude is pretty well spoken:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IroRe9hALf8"]New York Observer Exclusive Occupy Wall Street Unaired Fox Footage - YouTube[/ame]
 
This kid is awesome:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFz1VVXsWRU]Incredible Speech By Wall Street Protester "End The Fed" 2011 - YouTube[/ame]
 
I was there for the first two days and know personally many of the people that organized this occupation. They are mostly overeducated and underemployed young people being screwed over by a backwards system. Driven by a belief that having more economic power should not give you more political power. Everything they do is highly democratic and participatory. You're criticism won't slow them an inch.

If you can't get with this you might be on the wrong side of history.

I do want to point out that we have been able to continue to grow and bring new communities in despite a lack of demands, and that those people and groups will bring their own. I also think our demands really aren’t as mysterious as some people are letting on; I think our critics are playing dumb. Let’s cut the crap. We wouldn’t be on Wall Street if we didn’t already have an implicitly unifying message: We hold the banks, the millionaires, and the political elite they control, responsible for the exploitation and oppression we face – from capitalism, racism and authoritarianism to imperialism, patriarchy, and environmental degradation. We have a diversity of grievances, complaints, demands, principles, and visions, but it is clear that we have planted ourselves in the financial capital of the world because we see it as one of the most deeply entrenched roots of the various systems of oppression we face every day. Come on. The clue is in the title: Occupy Wall Street.

http://www.zcommunications.org/a-brief-analysis-from-a-wall-street-occupier-by-yotam-marom
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droplister said:
I was there for the first two days and know personally many of the people that organized this occupation. They are mostly overeducated and underemployed young people being screwed over by a backwards system. Driven by a belief that having more economic power should not give you more political power. Everything they do is highly democratic and participatory. You're criticism won't slow them an inch.

If you can't get with this you might be on the wrong side of history.
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I do not understand the position these people are taking. Is the middle class lifestyle really lower than it was 20-30 years ago? Are there really no jobs and no opportunity. I look out and see a lot of opportunity and I believe if these people would leverage their knowledge into innovation they would find they could really make a difference.

What is the complaint? Society is not giving them a job commensurate with their perceived worth? I really do not get what it is they are saying.

I hear the guy in the YouTube video above talking a lot, but what is he saying? What is it that he thinks he is owed? Does he think that the poor do not have health care? He says for profit health care does not work? That is a strange position. Where is it that the market system under performs when compared to other systems? Maybe he is thinking about the over regulated for profit system in the US? These young people do not have the prospective of age to know what they do not know.

They want corporations to have no say in politics? I want unions to have no say - they are just as big a problem if not bigger.

You really think I am on the wrong side of history?
 
REIMktg said:
I do not understand the position these people are taking. Is the middle class lifestyle really lower than it was 20-30 years ago? Are there really no jobs and no opportunity. I look out and see a lot of opportunity and I believe if these people would leverage their knowledge into innovation they would find they could really make a difference.

What is the complaint? Society is not giving them a job commensurate with their perceived worth? I really do not get what it is they are saying.

I hear the guy in the YouTube video above talking a lot, but what is he saying? What is it that he thinks he is owed? Does he think that the poor do not have health care? He says for profit health care does not work? That is a strange position. Where is it that the market system under performs when compared to other systems? Maybe he is thinking about the over regulated for profit system in the US? These young people do not have the prospective of age to know what they do not know.

They want corporations to have no say in politics? I want unions to have no say - they are just as big a problem if not bigger.

You really think I am on the wrong side of history?
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WE ARE BEING ROBBED

WE ARE BEING ROBBED.
 
Yuckystuff said:
If you take on $50k in student loans to get a liberal arts degree, you deserve to make my Frappuccino's for the rest of your life trying to pay those loans back.

If they want to do something worthwhile like working towards a unified goal of getting money out of politics then I can get behind them but until then they just look like a bunch of douchebags waiting on the next iPad/iPhone to be released.
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Perhaps unfortunately, this seems to be the case.
 
potentialeight said:
Perhaps unfortunately, this seems to be the case.
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Watch the two vids a couple of posts up if you haven't already. And keep in mind the MSM likes to interview/show the idiots of the lot in order to discredit the movement as a whole.

The first vid (of the chubby, older guy) was in fact pulled by Fox and not aired...
 
Both awesome films above; but I completely agree with Jarred's point above that all you have to do is pay attention and you won't be "victimized" like these kiddies marching all feel that they have been.

Of course that level of paying attention takes big brains and is quite rare in this world.

I'd guess less than 5% of the population of the US are capable of doing so. And we won't be hearing anything more from these 5% than we just heard from ppl on this forum.

Meanwhile the other 95% are all sheeple who can't see the nature of the machine they are in and will constantly complain about it, and of course spit out children to teach how to complain about it even more.

In this case, there is nowhere for this "movement" to go, anyway.

Even if they were organized and clearly focused, they'd still have no chance of making a dent in our leadership and the laws because the true leadership isn't apparent and can't be held responsible for jack shit. This truly like water off a duck's back to them. Even if it lasts a thousand years...
 
droplister said:
I was there for the first two days and know personally many of the people that organized this occupation. They are mostly overeducated and underemployed young people being screwed over by a backwards system. Driven by a belief that having more economic power should not give you more political power. Everything they do is highly democratic and participatory. You're criticism won't slow them an inch.

If you can't get with this you might be on the wrong side of history.
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lol

btw... an inch is a unit used to measure distance, not speed. How's that over-education working out for you entitled, ignorant, under-informed hippies?
 
When I was 17, I chose to attend an affordable state school in a village close to home even though I had been accepted to 2 “Ivy’s” and many of my friend were attending prestigious Universities around the country. My parents, who worked blue collar jobs, could not provide much support for my education so I chose state school knowing that I would have to pay the debt in full. I worked two jobs through college to make ends meet and networked constantly my junior and senior year to try to find work after school. The Monday after graduating with my “useless” communications degree, I started as an intern in IT at a local college, making minimum wage doing work that was not related to major, but work nonetheless. After a year of showing up on time and doing my job, they hired me full time and I was awarded affordable health benefits and a retirement fund. Two years and no raises later, they offered to pay for my MBA through their program at the business school. In 2010, I bought my first car, a new toyota corolla with money that I’d saved for almost 5 years. In 2011, I bought my first house on my own after living on my own since college in a shared apartment — a $72K, 1 bedroom condo with mortgage payments that were affordable, even with my low income. Shortly after, I finished my MBA and I was promoted into a higher paying job that allowed me to make larger payments against my debt while continuing to live a modest life. I do not live with a great deal of luxury, but my life is the result of constant forethought and planning to secure comfortable means to live by. I do not not now, nor have I ever relied on anyone else to pay my way through life.
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Taken from We Are the 99 Percent, a blog where random people list out all of their problems. It's good inspiration for working my ass off, if nothing else.
 
Yuckystuff said:
Nobody can spin away the fact that they have no agenda or list of demands. That's their own damn fault, not the MSM...
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13 Jul 2011

...we shall incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices.

...we demand that Barack Obama ordain a Presidential Commission tasked with ending the influence money has over our representatives in Washington.

...whether it be the dismantling of half the 1,000 military bases America has around the world to the reinstatement of the Glass-Steagall Act or a three strikes and you're out law for corporate criminals. Beginning from one simple demand – a presidential commission to separate money from politics – we start setting the agenda for a new America.

#OCCUPYWALLSTREET | Adbusters Culturejammer Headquarters


SimonD said:
btw... an inch is a unit used to measure distance, not speed.
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We measure speed in terms of distance (divided by time).
 
I hate all the self-pitying going on, but I do agree that money should not be able to influence politics. Obviously money will always be able to influence things in one way or another, but at the very least they could make it a lot more difficult...

As to why they're complaining to wall st, I have no idea.. nobody on wall st gives a fuck about a bunch of protesters.

I also liked the 2nd video above. The amount of inflation and money-printing is disgusting.
 
BlokBlok said:
Good shit, got that in his newsletter today
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I liked it. The thing is, that article you'll get a blank stare from most of the 99% - most will always remain part of the stupid masses. Is that bad? Don't we need the majority to be stupid?
 
lose lose win said:
You motherfuckers act as if the ridiculous amount corruption isn't at fault at all?
These people have every right to protest, and your dumb as fuck if you just automatically look down upon them as if you knew them. As if you are somehow better than them because you opted out of college and had the foresight to build business/assets. Sure, many are lazy slobs looking for a handout, but not all. Some people, for whatever reason, are less susceptible to the total fucking brainwash that is modern life. I've always been that way, always questioning the accepted norm. That doesn't make me better than the sheeple...just less fucking confused. Many of those people are hard working, intelligent people that are sick of the shit. Respect to them.


inb4 peasant
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