Occupy Wall Street



I hereby take back all of my previous claims supporting OWS.

When this shit started, I was under the impression that this was a protest to clean up the dirty practices on wall street and hold bankers accountable for the way they fuck people (and I mean everyone, not just assholes who got themselves in debt) and to pass some legislature that keeps the powerful financial institutions on a tighter leash.

That's what this shit was supposed to be, and I got behind that. However, the protesters (99%'ers) turned it into a giant 'give us free money because we made stupid decisions' rally and lost scope of the entire purpose. I hope they get tear gassed and beaten for ruining the only chance we had at taking measures against corporate corruption.

Hipsters ruin everything.
 
I can't help but identify with the protesters on a few counts. I feel terribly betrayed by my public education experience, and while I'm smarter now and not nearly as in debt as most, I still feel raw for going through a system that didn't actually teach me anything about the real world.

My high school honors program blew sunshine up our collective ass. They told us to follow our passions and do what we want. I wanted actual guidance. I wasn't as well off as others in the program, and couldn't afford a decent university, and even state schools were a distant dream. And I was lost in this gap, not able to go to a nice school, but lumped in with the rich kids who could. So, I chose personal fulfillment over reason, because this is what my instructors taught me.

I ended up going for a psych degree (BA, no less) from a college that was a step above a community college, without the focus on trade programs. Fucking useless, absolutely no demand for psych majors. And colleges everywhere are going corrupt. They're a profit-driven, ad-supported money machine like anything else. So I quit before I got further in debt.

I guess what I'm saying is that if I had better instruction and a more accurate idea of what schools were available to me, I would have been in a better position. And I wish I had more encouragement to take tech classes instead of pursuing a worthless honors program in high school, because then I'd have certifications and skills that would make me more valuable in society.

I've learned the lessons and I'm taking corrective measures right now, but it will take a lot longer and it's a lot less pleasant than it could of been. And I blame the educational system, and I hope to be able to donate money to help fix it once I get this fucking IM thing going.
 
robotinator said:
... absolutely no demand for psych majors...
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Dude, you're doing it wrong. Instead of trying to be a touchy feely child psych or some crap like that, watch "Century of the Self" and then market yourself as a psych who knows how to manipulate the masses. You should be able to get a plush job in a pr department.
 
Kstanki2 said:
I hereby take back all of my previous claims supporting OWS.

When this shit started, I was under the impression that this was a protest to clean up the dirty practices on wall street and hold bankers accountable for the way they fuck people (and I mean everyone, not just assholes who got themselves in debt) and to pass some legislature that keeps the powerful financial institutions on a tighter leash.

That's what this shit was supposed to be, and I got behind that. However, the protesters (99%'ers) turned it into a giant 'give us free money because we made stupid decisions' rally and lost scope of the entire purpose. I hope they get tear gassed and beaten for ruining the only chance we had at taking measures against corporate corruption.

Hipsters ruin everything.
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They haven't changed, you just weren't paying attention in the beginning.
 
ly2 from WF said:
They haven't changed, you just weren't paying attention in the beginning.
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They didn't declare any clear goals at all for like the first week, they couldn't decide on any demands and the crowd took control of what the demands were. Whenever a large group of people get together and try to decide on something, they make a stupid decision. They decided too avoid the real issues on focus on fixing the mistakes that they made instead of the ones the financial institutions did. I was paying attention, I just don't like the direction the protesters took it in.
 
Yuckystuff said:
And there is the problem.

Do you have any idea what "personal responsibility" is? You make decisions in life and you deal with the consequences. What the fuck did you think you'd be able to do with a Psych BA from a low tier University? Did you give it any thought during the 4+ years you were wasting your time and money on it?

Disclosure: I have a Business degree but I graduated with $0 debt and no pretensions about anybody owing me anything if I couldn't put it to use.
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Dude I'm kicking myself too. All I have to say for myself is that my parents put the idea in my head of "go to college, learn whatever you want," schools reinforced it, and the colleges are happy to take my money for whatever bullshit degree I want to get. They're a business, and they have marketing budgets like one.

But that's my point, I feel like I was given bad information. I'm not stupid, it's just that no one told me what I needed to know about college and the adult world. Education is the key to all of it, and I think anyone would agree that there's been a concentrated effort over the years to cripple the american educational system. These people out there protesting, who feel cheated because life didn't work out the way they thought it would shows that this effort's been successful.
 
Buncha fucking hipster protesting "corporate greed" while tweeting on their Ipads, Iphones, Mac Books, etc.

Buncha fucking tools.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaIVGO-wCk8]KRS-One talks about rap battles, Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Nelly, Hip-Hop with Omar Starr (OD) - YouTube[/ame]

Start at 21:45. I'm a fan of KRS One for a number of reasons but I like his explanation of failure repeating itself over multiple generations and of college being a scam, and I figure some of you guys might like it too. The first ~20 minutes of this has to do more with hip hop history and whatnot, but if you skip ahead to right about 21:45, it's pretty on point.
 
Andrew Scherer said:
I wondered that too until I watched this. It proves just how far it has sunk since the 50s

GOVERNMENT LIES - Mike Maloney of WealthCycles.com - YouTube
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I do not buy the argument yet.

Your car, is it nicer than the car in 1956? Hows that standard A/C, that suspension, even a Hyundai goes 110MPH+ and handles well. It has air bags and many cars goe 300K+ miles. You young people do not know it but in the past the Car odometer capped at 99,000 miles and then started at 0 again.

Your house. Does it have lead paint? Asbestos? Vinyl Windows? DO you have the world at your fingertips, cable TV, a phone you carry around, instant news and entertainment everywhere you go?

Did that family in the 50's go on cruises for a couple days wage? - Eat out every day for 1-3 meals, fly around in planes for a couple hours wage each way, have A/C in their homes etc? Have you seen a 1950's home with the tiny closets and heaters in the floor you had to turn on with a "key" for the gas? Hows that microwave? Etc.

Quality of life, even for the poor, or at least the working class, much better than in the 1950's.

It would not cost much money to live at the level they did back then. I mean really - think about it. How much to buy a car that was as reliable as and has the same amenities of a 1950's car?

I think the verdict is still out if the middle class has a lower standard of living or not - with or without the charts of inflation adjusted income. Maybe I am wrong, but I have yet to see compelling evidence to the claim.
 
potentialeight said:
KRS-One talks about rap battles, Lil Wayne, Jay Z, Nelly, Hip-Hop with Omar Starr (OD) - YouTube

Start at 21:45. I'm a fan of KRS One for a number of reasons but I like his explanation of failure repeating itself over multiple generations and of college being a scam, and I figure some of you guys might like it too. The first ~20 minutes of this has to do more with hip hop history and whatnot, but if you skip ahead to right about 21:45, it's pretty on point.
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Example: At 25:00 - "People say college is about getting a job afterwards. [It's not.] College is about business! It's about learning free-market capitalism from a variety of angles."
 
Crynos said:
We Are the 99 Percent - Nobody has ever held a gun to my head and said...
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There was one response that included the following:

Education should be a right not a privilege.
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God this pisses me off, and I say this as someone who dropped out of college at one point in time because I couldn't afford to both take classes and take care of my family. Why should the world be given to me on a silver platter? If you want an "education" so bad, then visit a library. Most libraries allow you to get on the Internet, which is the biggest source of information there's ever been in the history of human fucking beings.

What this person means to say is that a piece of paper that says "now you're qualified to be a ________" should be given out to everybody and everyone else should have to pay for it. Then there should be a bunch of jobs that allow this person to go to work and be a ________ without there actually being any adequate demand for any ________'s in the world to justify the jobs in the first place.

All of these jobs should start out at $75k/year plus full health insurance for the worker and the worker's entire extended family that the company provides free of charge, plus 6 weeks of paid vacation time each year and 2 weeks worth of sick days. The person should only have to work 30 hours each week, because I mean face it guys 40 hours each week is just too much for the man to ask of us if we just want to make ends meet.

"But they lied to us!" Yeah well no shit. Life sucks so get a fucking helmet. Stop blaming everyone else for your problems. If you got turned into a sucker, then it's your fault for being a sucker too. Stop believing stupid shit like a piece of paper is going to guarantee your worth to society.

Okay, kind of went on a rant there.
 
GI education money?

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