600 a month on dogs and 900 a month on rent in a 3rd world wtsrsfuk
I was spending 200 a month on a 2k squrefoot 3/2 house and still kind of getting ripped off.. i hope ur digs arecamazing
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600 a month on dogs and 900 a month on rent in a 3rd world wtsrsfuk
I was spending 200 a month on a 2k squrefoot 3/2 house and still kind of getting ripped off.. i hope ur digs arecamazing
International connections are fairly shit throughout all of Asia. Yes, you can get 100mbit blah blah for dirt cheap, but unless you spawn a few thousand connections to the US, you've got no chance in hell of saturating the line.
The routers throughout Asia are also questionable at best. Expect 2-300ms pings to neighboring countries, and if you're in PH, even to neighboring cities (cross ISP sometimes leaves the country first)
Speeds are tolerable for SSH. Reliable internet is generally expensive. Commercial grade quality connections are obscenely expensive ($100+/mbit)
I'd seriously budget $200/mo+ for internet. Right now I spend $750/mo for office and $100/mo for home.
You'll find that Youtube goes through spats. One day you can stream 720p no problem, the next you can't get a reliable connection for 240. Vimeo rarely if ever streams properly. Both of these issues come down to POP's and low cost routing.
Being that Thailand has a huge over-land interconnect opportunity and lower power costs, you'll find you're likely connecting to POP's intended for China or India. Routes in PH are not optimized for Asia, but VoIP to the US.
Granted this isn't always the case, but files served from Japan, Hong Kong, or China (closest POP's for PH) generally come down at a sub 1mbit rates. 10mbit+ is normally not an issue for files out of the US.
For internet, that's probably right. I could be wrong, but would imagine mainland SE Asia has far better submarine cable connections than the Philippines.
*shrug* Go Google house rentals in Thailand. Requirements are fully furnished, and large gated yard -- large enough for two 30kg dogs to run full speed whenever they desire. You're right though, I know of rooms for $30/month, and used to have a 4bdrm house for $160/month.
As for the dogs, you're right, I don't need to be feeding them rib-eye steaks, or giving them the "real" beef jerky treats, and so on. I do though, and what the hell, they're worth it.
*shrug* Go Google house rentals in Thailand. Requirements are fully furnished, and large gated yard -- large enough for two 30kg dogs to run full speed whenever they desire. You're right though, I know of rooms for $30/month, and used to have a 4bdrm house for $160/month.
As for the dogs, you're right, I don't need to be feeding them rib-eye steaks, or giving them the "real" beef jerky treats, and so on. I do though, and what the hell, they're worth it.
Costa Rica. Same time zones as US, cheap, clean, more developed than neighbors.
And it's fucking gorgeous. 2 oceans, warm clear water, etc etc etc
Also imo it's easier to assimilate into the culture of latin america than asian countries.
And it's fucking gorgeous. 2 oceans, warm clear water, etc etc etc
Also imo it's easier to assimilate into the culture of latin america than asian countries.
The south of Spain is nice.
You can rent a nice furnished place, probably new or hardly lived in, apartment or semi detached condo, gardener, pool etc. for as little as €400, but typically it's around €600-€1000 for a decent place. You might even be able to find a proper villa with a yard and private pool for €1000 ish.
Car is about €300-€400 a month on a long term rental.
Groceries are about €100-€120 a week for two people.
Utilities vary. Some months are worse than others, but it'll be about €200 a month. Internet is a solid 10mb connection with about 100ms ping.
Eating out at quality places is cheap (€10-€15 a head for a decent meal and a couple beers) and booze is ridiculously cheap at the grocery (25 cents a can for cheap beer, €4 for 750ml low end vodka). Drinks at bars are about €1.50-€3. Expect to pay much more if you go to a night club.
I'm sure you could get by here for about €2000 a month and live quite well. The girl and I probably spend about €2500-€3000 a month.
You can rent a nice furnished place, probably new or hardly lived in, apartment or semi detached condo, gardener, pool etc. for as little as €400, but typically it's around €600-€1000 for a decent place. You might even be able to find a proper villa with a yard and private pool for €1000 ish.
Car is about €300-€400 a month on a long term rental.
Groceries are about €100-€120 a week for two people.
Utilities vary. Some months are worse than others, but it'll be about €200 a month. Internet is a solid 10mb connection with about 100ms ping.
Eating out at quality places is cheap (€10-€15 a head for a decent meal and a couple beers) and booze is ridiculously cheap at the grocery (25 cents a can for cheap beer, €4 for 750ml low end vodka). Drinks at bars are about €1.50-€3. Expect to pay much more if you go to a night club.
I'm sure you could get by here for about €2000 a month and live quite well. The girl and I probably spend about €2500-€3000 a month.
There are cheap homes to own in small cities in USA like Reno, Nevada or Akron, Ohio.
Akron OH Homes for Sale & Akron Real Estate - Zillow
Akron OH Homes for Sale & Akron Real Estate - Zillow
If I were you, I would pick like 10 cities in the world that interest you then plug them in to this website
Cost of Living
against the city you currently live in and change the currency to USD. You will get a really good idea of how much each country costs to live in compared to the US according to what sort of stuff you want to pay for.
Check this page out for example
Cost Of Living Comparison Between Thailand And United States
South America has started to get really expensive, I'd stick to Asia and Eastern Europe
Cost of Living
against the city you currently live in and change the currency to USD. You will get a really good idea of how much each country costs to live in compared to the US according to what sort of stuff you want to pay for.
Check this page out for example
Cost Of Living Comparison Between Thailand And United States
South America has started to get really expensive, I'd stick to Asia and Eastern Europe
If you're a UK citizen and its your first time living abroad go with an Eastern European country that's in the EU. That way you wont have to mess around with visa shit. Trust me on this as all government interactions in 2nd/3rd world countries are a fucking nightmare. I'm a US citizen and after dealing with getting residency visas, etc. here in Czech Republic (supposedly one of the most developed of the eastern european countries) I laugh at my American friends at home who complain that they had to wait for 2 hours at the DMV.
Infrastructure is also way better in Eastern Europe when compared to SE Asia. I live in Prague and the public transport is better than most of Western Europe and cheaper (my monthly transport card costs ~$30). Internet costs about the same and it always works. No need for backups
Nightlife is also cheap. A half liter of some of the best beer in the world at a pub is about $1.50. A bottle of vodka, VIP table, and mixers at the club will run you $100-125 depending on the club.
The only real downside to living here is interacting with the older generation of people who grew up during communism. Not all, but a large majority of them are complete cunts who take pleasure in being rude assholes to everyone. Thankfully that attitude seems to be mostly dying with that generation. The upside is no one will judge you if you're a rude asshole right back to them.
Infrastructure is also way better in Eastern Europe when compared to SE Asia. I live in Prague and the public transport is better than most of Western Europe and cheaper (my monthly transport card costs ~$30). Internet costs about the same and it always works. No need for backups
Nightlife is also cheap. A half liter of some of the best beer in the world at a pub is about $1.50. A bottle of vodka, VIP table, and mixers at the club will run you $100-125 depending on the club.
The only real downside to living here is interacting with the older generation of people who grew up during communism. Not all, but a large majority of them are complete cunts who take pleasure in being rude assholes to everyone. Thankfully that attitude seems to be mostly dying with that generation. The upside is no one will judge you if you're a rude asshole right back to them.
How do you get through $3000 in Thailand? I dont even spend that here in the UK
I know western stuff, including food etc is expensive there (isnt it?), but just sounds like a lot to me..
Wait until you move out of your parents basement and start incurring some big boy expenses. My monthly house and car payments alone are more than double that.
I did that over half my life ago. Try again young man.
Sounds to me you're just trying to be a big dick.
I'd suggest living in places for a bit and see how you like it. I've spent the last 20 months or so doing exactly that and now I have a better idea of places I can see myself living in.
For example I lived in Buenos Aires for three months and while I loved it, I definitely couldn't live there full time. Same with Chiang Mai/Pai in northern thailand which is close to where kiopa matt is.
Eastern europe is nice, but it's not particularly cheap compared to SE asia and the winters are a no deal for me.
South of spain is beautiful, but you want to speak decent Spanish - same with all of south america (also south america is not exactly cheap either unless you want to live in Bolivia).
For example I lived in Buenos Aires for three months and while I loved it, I definitely couldn't live there full time. Same with Chiang Mai/Pai in northern thailand which is close to where kiopa matt is.
Eastern europe is nice, but it's not particularly cheap compared to SE asia and the winters are a no deal for me.
South of spain is beautiful, but you want to speak decent Spanish - same with all of south america (also south america is not exactly cheap either unless you want to live in Bolivia).
I'm only intending on being in one place for between 1 and 3-4 months. I'll be on tourist visas and just "living" there till i feel it's time to move on.
I don't plan on leasing a car or accruing belongings. Just put my laptop on a desk, clothes on hangers, go buy some plants and just work out of the apartment for a while till I've had enough. I'll be hitting the gym in the afternoons, maybe take some classes in the evenings, go for a drink every now and then.
I shall be taking a keen interest in this thread and reading it later when I have more time. This is something I too have been thinking about myself mainly for a better climate & happier people. I'm thinking Thailand also.