PPP Poll: Ron Paul takes lead in Iowa



check this bullshit out...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09XzAyFwXbY]A Comparison of Media Reporting of Iowa Caucus Importance (2008 vs. 2012) - YouTube[/ame]
 
He is not. Taking the currency away from the FED and giving it to the Congress is only a marginal tweak.

lol uh huh. Nationalizing currency into the hands of elected representatives is many things. A 'marginal tweak' is not one of them.

The only way to safeguard a monetary system is to leave it in the market, and let the people choose what they can confidently trade in.

I sure hope the good doc would have a bit more up his sleeve than this before dismantling the largest engine of wealth and trade on the planet.

If more people understood the money system, I am pretty sure they would take away the money power from the state, regardless of country. It is the biggest and most dangerous racket in the history of mankind, and most people are completely oblivious to it.

What money and states are you talking about?
 
lol uh huh. Nationalizing currency into the hands of elected representatives is many things. A 'marginal tweak' is not one of them.
It's superficial to the root issues surrounding modern "money".

I sure hope the good doc would have a bit more up his sleeve than this before dismantling the largest engine of wealth and trade on the planet.
It sounds nice, but it's not factual.

The industrial revolution happened on a gold standard, and created the highest per capital GDP growth in US history, so at least that one historical episode contradicts your claim.

Will you to lay out the train of logic which makes your claim accurate?

What money and states are you talking about?
All fiat money and all states with central banks (all of them).
 
Good video. I never thought he'd be an RP fan but maybe he's changed his mind now.

I used to listen to glenn beck for years while delivering pizzas and going through school. Here's the thing about Glenn, he'll never fully support RP but that doesn't mean he has blinders on.

Glenn's rant in that clip is very telling on how he views things. In a normal environment, he's got a more aggressive stance on the rest of the world. However, an economic collapse IS coming (duh) and when it happens, dictators rise. That's realistic and factual.

So while RP wouldn't be his first choice by a mile, Beck will support the candidate that gives us the best chance for recovery (economics & freedom). I would wager if our choices are Gingrich / Obama next year he would support, if not actively campaign for, a 3rd party.

Historically bad shit happens, having the right leader at the right time determines the well being of citizens during and after turmoil. If a big gov't guy is in office at the time, it's dangerous to the liberties of all free societies.
 
guerilla said:
The only way to safeguard a monetary system is to leave it in the market, and let the people choose what they can confidently trade in.

MSTeacher said:
I sure hope the good doc would have a bit more up his sleeve than this before dismantling the largest engine of wealth and trade on the planet.

The industrial revolution happened on a gold standard, and created the highest per capital GDP growth in US history, so at least that one historical episode contradicts your claim.

^^?? My only claim is that anyone who wants to abolish the dollar right here, right now, in favor of competing privately issued currencies needs to have a miracle up their sleeve to avert an economic collapse in the wake of withdrawing the dollar from world trade.

We're talking about the introduction of private currencies into the market to compete with and/or replace dollars are we not?

Will you to lay out the train of logic which makes your claim accurate?
It's not a claim. It's a fact. For better or worse the dollar is the basis of and current prerequisite for world trade. Hundreds of billions in turnover a day. Nothing else comes close.

All fiat money and all states with central banks (all of them).
Name any appreciable number of influential central banks whose monetary policies are dictated by representatives of the states for whom they issue.
 
^^?? My only claim is that anyone who wants to abolish the dollar right here, right now, in favor of competing privately issued currencies needs to have a miracle up their sleeve to avert an economic collapse in the wake of withdrawing the dollar from world trade.
Why?

We're talking about the introduction of private currencies into the market to compete with and/or replace dollars are we not?
That's up to the market. Paul simply wants to make it NOT illegal to do so.

It's not a claim. It's a fact.
I love how you assert facts. THIS IS A FACT BECAUSE I SAID IT WAS.

Prove your fact, or admit it is just an opinion. Anything less is dishonest, yes?

Name any appreciable number of influential central banks whose monetary policies are dictated by representatives of the states for whom they issue.
What does that have to do with anything?
 

Why..would they need to account for this potential catastrophe?There are hundreds of millions of lives and the well being of human development at stake...

Prove your fact, or admit it is just an opinion.
You need me to prove the extent to which the dollar is integral to world trade?

nevermind

guerilla said:
they would take away the money power from the state
MSTeacher said:
Name any appreciable number of influential central banks whose monetary policies are dictated by representatives of the states for whom they issue.
guerilla said:
What does that have to do with anything?

nevermind
 
Why..would they need to account for this potential catastrophe?There are hundreds of millions of lives and the well being of human development at stake...
Why would the economy collapse?

You need me to prove the extent to which the dollar is integral to world trade?
No, I want you to substantiate that global and American economic growth is dependent on the dollar qua dollar, as opposed to another form of money.

nevermind
Why? Your question was not relevant to my statement. All of the states run the central banks, all states control the money monopoly, they simply farm it out to an agency or firm to handle the nuances of it.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr2KV50BKQQ]Ron Paul Ad - Believe - YouTube[/ame]
 
I believe he got Bush's former Ad manager :)
Yep he's VERY good.

I'm glad he's spending some of that money this time around on hiring the best people.

the one with the former husband of the patient discussing his experience (anti-racist ad) need to be ran a lot this primary season.

That's actually not owned by RonPaul2012, but by RevolutionPAC (a super PAC that you can donate unlimited funds to...), but I agree- it's very moving. There's a great video of a radio host interviewing him that plays that ad for him, and you can tell that even he is moved/surprised by it. He said he didn't remember the guy and it was just standard procedure for him.