proof that obama is the anti-christ!

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you guys must be having a fucking slow news week...

Not really; consumer spending up for May, housing starts up for May,new jobless claims down for Mayand another one of the repugnicants God-squadding "family values" frauds got caught diddling a staffers' wife.Holy-Rolling 2012 hopeful name of Ensign.

Just bad news all around for the Fail America Goppers.

FUCK......I want, so bad to counter this liberal propaganda but I made this thread in jest and therefore I will call upon the powers of the great Obama to help me hold my tougue.
 
Obama does some good shit and some bad shit. In the end he is not really the one who controls business in America.
 
you guys must be having a fucking slow news week...

Not really; consumer spending up for May, housing starts up for May,new jobless claims down for Mayand another one of the repugnicants God-squadding "family values" frauds got caught diddling a staffers' wife.Holy-Rolling 2012 hopeful name of Ensign.

Just bad news all around for the Fail America Goppers.

Argh. I feel so argumentative on this board. But ok.
The complaint that any coherrent GOPer is going to give isn't that the stimulus and all this crap won't provide short term confidence and have a short term increase.
The problem is we can't keep printing money without repurcussions down the road as we actually start to spend the money we said we'd spend.

Especially since we're not backed with Gold, we need countries to buy up our debt to maintain the value of the dollar. Up until this point, China has been by far the biggest buyer, but they're starting to get some cold feet about buying a lot more.

The instant no one buys our debt anymore, we're 100% fucked. When the money we're making is so disproportional to the money we're spending, we lose more than just the money we spent. That money itself loses value. So as we start to print out more money in the coming years, we'll get to see what the actual long term affects are.
Really it's almost a metaphor for the housing crisis, where something was valued too high and property was used almost as money itself(it was considered so stable), then the bottom dropped out, values plummeted, and while X used to be worth Y, we still own X but now it's worth Z.

While Obama had few choices in the economic fiasco(many shitty things were necessary), a lot of the choices he has made weren't good. They just transferred the instability of the companies to the government. So now instead of companies at a massive deficit, it's the government at the same deficit.

We didn't get rid of the problem, we shifted it over and delayed it for a few years. Granted, we may be able to do something with that time to position ourselves better. But motions have been going the opposite direction.
 
Obama does some good shit and some bad shit. In the end he is not really the one who controls business in America.

This would be true if we followed the U.S. Constitution. In fact, if we stuck to the Constitution and the checks it imposed on the federal government, it would not matter who was president. The president's power would be severely limited and held in check by the Congress.

Unfortunately, Congress has ceded much of their constitutional authority to the president. Making matters worse, treaties signed by the president and approved by the Senate trump the rights and civil liberties accorded to the populace by the Constitution.

Article VI of the U.S. Constitution states...

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

The president can enter treaties that help him/her bypass the legislative process to push an agenda item for which there is little support. A good example is the recent CIFTA negotiations.

I don't mean to suggest the U.S. Constitution is flawed in giving treaties preference over our freedoms and civil liberties. However, given that presidents can - and have - entered into treaties that have done as much, it is reasonable to argue a standing president can indeed influence business.

Article II states the Senate must "consent" by a 2/3 vote to a treaty. But, Senators (from both parties) are increasingly complicit to the standing president. We saw that with Bush Jr. and we see that happening in real time with Obama.

Is Obama the anti-christ? I dunno, but man, he made quick work of that fly.

Just sayin'.
 
no.. that's not cheney's style. cheney would have stripped it naked, sexually molested it, and waterboarded it until it gave us inaccurate intelligence.

Excuse me, but there are CIA memos that prove beyond all doubt that waterboarding that fly provided vital intelligence that saved the entire west coast of the United States from a massive insect attack.

We also have intelligence memos proving that our waterboarding techniques prevented this from happening:

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We just can't show it to you, ever.

STARSHIP FUCKIN' TROOPERS!


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Excuse me, but there are CIA memos that prove beyond all doubt that waterboarding that fly provided vital intelligence that saved the entire west coast of the United States from a massive insect attack.

Not only that but it was the LSD Cheney put on flypaper near the borders that allowed us to extract the true cause of the swine flu ... the mexican jumping mosquito.
 
If you want to save some time Popeye, I can just create a bot with your login / pass credentials and have it post the same 20 words on some regular basis forever.

Then you can get back to your busy days of contributing essentially nothing to the world.
 
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