Thank you. +rep
Most of the people clamoring for Prop 19 haven't looked into it as closely as they should. They don't realize it would have been a step backward.
Prop 19 did not pass.
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Thank you. +rep
Most of the people clamoring for Prop 19 haven't looked into it as closely as they should. They don't realize it would have been a step backward.
Just cali and colorado? Haha, much more than that...16 states now:
Alsaska, California, Colorado, District of Columbia, Maine, Hawaii, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington.
Active State Medical Marijuana Programs - NORML
And generally you can find doctors who are known for giving out medical recommendations as long as you know what symptoms to report. Just do your research before you talk to a physician.
The tobacco companies are salivating over the prospects of legal marijuana. Simply because they are prepared to take over the market when it becomes legal. They have the money, fields, and manpower. When weed does finally become legal we will probably be buying it from Marlboro.
Maybe that's what people were voting no on.
Ballots should come with comment boxes. Now wouldn't that be fun?
How embarrassing. There wasn't even any opposition to this in California. Score another resounding defeat for George Soros!
Why are you so against personal freedom? I guess you like having the Government tell you what to do.
Figures.
I was going to say, a lot of pro pot people I know and read about were fully against Prop 19.
I heard the rumor years ago, that Marlboro had a brand and everything ready for if / when legalization happens. Called Marlboro Greens. Not sure if it's true or not.
Keep your chin up. This is still a landmark case with NO votes only beating out YES votes at a 10% margin. You can mostly attribute it to the youth not voting, but this sets the stage and builds momentum for the 2012 vote.
Considering I heard that same rumor in high school (circa 1998) and the domain was registered last year...I'm going with untrue!
its amazing how ridiculous rumors/urban legends spread from coast to coast before the internet existed. I used to hear this one in high school too.
You're not listening. It was a horribly written law. Pro pot people didn't want it to pass in its current form. Perhaps when it's rewritten getting rid of the ridiculous language in it and is put to vote in a couple years it will actually pass on its merits, not on hysteria.
The "old" vote is partly made of of people who were fighting for legalization in the 60s. You can't assume all old people are against marijuana.
Assuming anything is dangerous and it'll never be an all or nothing thing. As you get older, your perspective on this stuff changes greatly. At 35, I'm not nearly the pot advocate I was at 21 ... probably because I'm not stoned 24/7. Of course, that doesn't mean I wouldn't vote the right way.
Sadly, I'm going to have to get out of the bible belt to have any real chance of toking freely in my own home anytime in my natural life.
Here's the problem with propositions and legislation regarding marijuana legalization:
It only takes 50,000 sigs to place it on the ballot, but in order to sanitize the proposed legislation it always includes provisions meant to negate any possible arguments against it. Some interesting provisions I've seen over the years...
You can't sell marijuana within 200 yards of a church or school. (because impressionable teenagers might feel tempted to try it and can't walk 200 ft)
You must be 21 to legally purchase it. (It should be regulated like alcohol, not cigarettes. This means they could also charge businesses for "commercial marijuana licenses")
You can't smoke it in public. (which means lounging on a patio at a bar or a coffee shop, you can smoke tobacco, and not weed)
You can carry up to an ounce. (meaning that over an ounce you're assumed as having an attempt to sell so either you're up on federal charges, or you're paying business fines for operating without license. They never determined which.)
Etc. Etc. Etc.
It needs to pass. However poorly the legislation was written, there were three reasons why it didn't pass and it had nothing to do with what was in the bill. (The vast majority of voters operated on speculation, hearsay, and the little abstract on the sample ballot.)
1) Casual to hard-core smokers already have either a hook-up or a med card.
2) Smokers don't want big business (RJ Reynolds, which frankly spells evil to a lot of people) to sell them their weed.
3) They're worried about federal enforcement, or they think it's a federal issue, not a state's rights one.
This will pass in my life-time. People on both sides just need to quit being retarded first.
It only takes 50,000 sigs to place it on the ballot, but in order to sanitize the proposed legislation it always includes provisions meant to negate any possible arguments against it. Some interesting provisions I've seen over the years...
You can't sell marijuana within 200 yards of a church or school. (because impressionable teenagers might feel tempted to try it and can't walk 200 ft)
You must be 21 to legally purchase it. (It should be regulated like alcohol, not cigarettes. This means they could also charge businesses for "commercial marijuana licenses")
You can't smoke it in public. (which means lounging on a patio at a bar or a coffee shop, you can smoke tobacco, and not weed)
You can carry up to an ounce. (meaning that over an ounce you're assumed as having an attempt to sell so either you're up on federal charges, or you're paying business fines for operating without license. They never determined which.)
Etc. Etc. Etc.
It needs to pass. However poorly the legislation was written, there were three reasons why it didn't pass and it had nothing to do with what was in the bill. (The vast majority of voters operated on speculation, hearsay, and the little abstract on the sample ballot.)
1) Casual to hard-core smokers already have either a hook-up or a med card.
2) Smokers don't want big business (RJ Reynolds, which frankly spells evil to a lot of people) to sell them their weed.
3) They're worried about federal enforcement, or they think it's a federal issue, not a state's rights one.
This will pass in my life-time. People on both sides just need to quit being retarded first.
CA resident.
I am not a smoker, but with so many people already partaking in it, it's too bad the state can't profit off of it.
I am not a smoker, but with so many people already partaking in it, it's too bad the state can't profit off of it.