Question about supporting Israel

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Napolean

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Why is it when anyone says that the U.S should stay out of Israel's business, they are immediately called an anti-semite or against Israel.

Six-Day War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If I'm not mistaken, Israel didn't have any support during this ordeal, but it was up against the concerted effort of 12 other nations. The result, Israel kicked their asses.

So, why does everyone assume that without the U.S support, Israel would get wiped out? I thought they were one of the toughest militaries next to ours.
 


Napolean said:
Why is it when anyone says that the U.S should stay out of Israel's business, they are immediately called an anti-semite or against Israel.
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It's easier to play the race card than to have an actual argument. Here's an example:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOV0qCW7nBA]Ben Stein Accuses Ron Paul of Anti-Semitism on Larry King - YouTube[/ame]
 
I think we are more worried about israel starting a nuclear world wide armageddon then their well being.
 
Without USA supporting, Israel wouldn't survive to be called a country today. The UK started it with belford promise, then the lobby in the US paved the way from there. The USA or other nations doesn't have to publicly support it, all the work is done behind the scenes. You only see the results.

Few weeks ago Palestine wanted to be a country in UN. Guess what the US, objected with silly reasons. The only country that came out publicly with an objection.
 
Eldarion said:
I think we are more worried about israel starting a nuclear world wide armageddon then their well being.
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How are we stopping them from doing so? They are a small country. If they attack any country with nuclear weapons, they are finished. Same goes for any country that attacks them.

If we didn't have a military obligation to Israel, then the likelihood of ICBM's flying over this side of the globe is decreased. It's our military commitment that would guarantee we got hit too.
 
I have a hunch that if the Palestinians stop resorting to terrorism, Israel wouldn't have a problem with them, one-state or two-state.

Heck, Israel has a lot of peaceful Arabs living there today.
 
Napolean said:
So, why does everyone assume that without the U.S support, Israel would get wiped out? I thought they were one of the toughest militaries next to ours.
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The financial support that the US gives Israel is equal to only about 5% of their GDP (if not, less). US and Israel have mutual interests; it isn't that they need the US, it's that they're fighting the same wars.
 
There's an entire LARGE segment of the US Evangelical/Fundamentalists that believe the US needs to support Isreal for one reason only - Armageddon.

They fully believe the US should support Israel up to the "end times" at which point it will be wiped out along with all the other "unbelievers" and blah blah blah Jesus etc.

The irony is simple - they want Israel to survive so it can be wiped out later.
 
Napolean said:
Why is it when anyone says that the U.S should stay out of Israel's business, they are immediately called an anti-semite or against Israel.
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Because Israel was set up by the Rothschilds after World War II as a foundation for the New World Order. Since British Monarchy controls the US it is only natural that you would bring the finance from one of your best assets. A big part of World War II was to gain support for these poor, persecuted Jews that Hitler exterminated. A more important question is why were "Jews" like the Rothschilds financing the genocide of "Jews" in Germany? This whole thing ties into handcrafted Biblical prophesy and the sheep love it. A "semite" is a descendant of Shem, one of the 3 sons of Noah. So if you trace who Shem's descendants really are you will find that all middle eastern people who claim descent from Ishmael are semites and all the other 11 tribes of Israel besides Judah, who Jews claim descent from, are also semitic. It's a big secret that nobody knows about because they don't care to research history. Jews are not the only semites. Moreover, most the Jews in Israel aren't Jews by blood anyway. They are Russian Jews by conversion to Judaism, not by blood. The whole thing is a fraud and the sheep can't seem to get enough of it. But until people go back and read history and see where people came from they are never going to understand why German Kings are ruling in Britain creating the State of Israel.
 
slayerment said:
Because Israel was set up by the Rothschilds after World War II as a foundation for the New World Order. Since British Monarchy controls the US it is only natural that you would bring the finance from one of your best assets. A big part of World War II was to gain support for these poor, persecuted Jews that Hitler exterminated. A more important question is why were "Jews" like the Rothschilds financing the genocide of "Jews" in Germany? This whole thing ties into handcrafted Biblical prophesy and the sheep love it. A "semite" is a descendant of Shem, one of the 3 sons of Noah. So if you trace who Shem's descendants really are you will find that all middle eastern people who claim descent from Ishmael are semites and all the other 11 tribes of Israel besides Judah, who Jews claim descent from, are also semitic. It's a big secret that nobody knows about because they don't care to research history. Jews are not the only semites. Moreover, most the Jews in Israel aren't Jews by blood anyway. They are Russian Jews by conversion to Judaism, not by blood. The whole thing is a fraud and the sheep can't seem to get enough of it. But until people go back and read history and see where people came from they are never going to understand why German Kings are ruling in Britain creating the State of Israel.
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This.

Israel has US support because they're both fiefdoms of the New World Order banker crowd. And because Mossad and Shin-Bet have us politicians blackmailed eight ways to wednesday.
 
Napolean said:
Why is it when anyone says that the U.S should stay out of Israel's business, they are immediately called an anti-semite or against Israel.

Six-Day War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If I'm not mistaken, Israel didn't have any support during this ordeal, but it was up against the concerted effort of 12 other nations. The result, Israel kicked their asses.

So, why does everyone assume that without the U.S support, Israel would get wiped out? I thought they were one of the toughest militaries next to ours.
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Because Jews give about 70-80% of total campaign contributions received by the Democrat party and something like 20-30% of total contributions received by the Republicans but they're only about 6% of the population.

They are the puppetmaster and we are the puppets.
 
It's

a. because they don't want the Israelis kicking off another war. If left alone, they'd win the "country most likely to start a nuclear conflict" award every year.

and

b. because Israel is a stable democracy who isn't in thrall to commies (back in the 70s/80s/90s) or Islamic fundamentalists (since then). If the US needs somewhere to park their fighter jets because the goverment decides that it's time to give Iran an armed tutorial in democracy, they need to keep Israel sweet.
 
How is what happens to another country on the other side of the world the business of the USA? Further, can the USA afford that? ...
 
I would imagine Iran will be getting some "love" from Israel, France, etc VERY soon...in the form of missiles in the sky targeting their nuclear program. there is LOTS of chatter about this lately. they bomb iran every few years it seems like, and tensions are high as ever...we are due.

Something tells me Iran is not gonna let it fly this time though....should be interesting month ahead...
 
the U.S. will always support Israel simply because Jewish-Americans are running the show in the U.S. It's that simple. I don't know why so many people don't realize this.

Wall Street = Jews
Federal Reserve = Jews
Major Media Networks = Jews
Pharmaceuticals & Healthcare = Jews

The average White-Christian American doesn't give a damn about either Israel or Palestine. If it wasn't for American-Jews, the U.S. would have never gotten involved in this conflict in the first place. (IMHO)

Anyways, I believe both Israel and Palestine deserve to have their country. That said, I strongly believe that it's up to the U.N. (not the U.S., Israel or Palestine) to decide how it will be done. Wasn't that the whole point of creating the fucking United Nations? That's what pissed me off. Why don't we let the U.N. do their work?
 
Ar Scion said:
I have a hunch that if the Palestinians stop resorting to terrorism, Israel wouldn't have a problem with them, one-state or two-state.
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Not having a problem in the one state scenario, would indicate that all Palestinians would be made full citizens with voting rights. Israel (or the hardliners that often control the government) do not want this as the arab population growth is higher, and arabs would end up having the majority in government.

Not having a problem in the two state scenario, would mean that Israel would be in total agreement with what Palestine thinks the borders to be, and that's not going to happen anytime soon.



charlesmartel said:
Because Jews give about 70-80% of total campaign contributions received by the Democrat party and something like 20-30% of total contributions received by the Republicans but they're only about 6% of the population.
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They are less than 2% of the US, so I can't imagine they really account for that much of the donations.
 
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