Realistic revenues for beginner after 3 months
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Should go into a little more detail. You buying traffic? Using what trakin tools?
Dont have to give campaign(s) details but some general info would be great.
Realistic revenues can be whatever. It depends how much time your willing to invest and how hard you decide to work. The sky's the limit. You can make a little or... a lot.
Quick tips :
1. Learn time management, better organizational skills, and how to prioritize things. Make a physical list. Stick it to your wall. Calendar, memo boards, and post-its are great too.
2. Make a Want / Need poster. Both list & pictures. For motivation & inspiration. Example : your dream car, Vegas-style luxury resort dream backyard, dream house, high end computer or entertainment system setup, whatever.
3. Stop wasting time with things that don't matter too much, like videogames and partying. (especially MMOs', guild raiding, grinding, going out often, etc). Taking breaks every once in a while is always a good thing though
4. Eat a nutritious & healthy power breakfast cause it's the most important meal of day. But some forget.
5. Focus & learn everything you can about Internet Marketing, Money, Business, how things work, etc
6. Take action !!!
Quick tips :
1. Learn time management, better organizational skills, and how to prioritize things. Make a physical list. Stick it to your wall. Calendar, memo boards, and post-its are great too.
2. Make a Want / Need poster. Both list & pictures. For motivation & inspiration. Example : your dream car, Vegas-style luxury resort dream backyard, dream house, high end computer or entertainment system setup, whatever.
3. Stop wasting time with things that don't matter too much, like videogames and partying. (especially MMOs', guild raiding, grinding, going out often, etc). Taking breaks every once in a while is always a good thing though
4. Eat a nutritious & healthy power breakfast cause it's the most important meal of day. But some forget.
5. Focus & learn everything you can about Internet Marketing, Money, Business, how things work, etc
6. Take action !!!
feelsbadman when will it be my turn to ceo 10k/day
I got in close to 10k debt after the period of me quitting school, job and going in to IM. But the stress of that really fired me up to make it work and I ended up paying it off quickly once I had no other options. After that I had the skills and resources to make bigger projects happen. I think if you can use being pushed in to a corner as leverage to really do more. In that case some short term pain can really work out to be your biggest strength.
OK, I've been reading through this thread a little more and I have to chime in here with a few things.
First of all everyone who says 0-500 a month income is "realistic" (a whopping 60% of people) are really looking at it wrong.
In what other business would 0-500 a month after 3 months of toiling be considered even remotely acceptable? NONE. $500 a month from a business is NOT a business, it might as well be bankrupt! you can't even pay yourself with that!
Yes, most brick and mortar businesses actually lose money due to interest rates and start up capital needs, poor management skills, etc. But they are considered failures. They close up shop and go bankrupt. 0-500/month online is considered a success? It's not. It's the equivalent of the corner store that goes bankrupt in it's first year (which most of them do).
I understand that if you've managed to make 500 then that can motivate you to work on bigger and better things.
But the reason people think that is something to shoot for is because they treat this business like a hobby. I notice that most of the guys who think that's a great goal are the guys who seem to equate IM with SEO. No seriously -a ton of people have got the idea that IM essentially starts and ends with doing SEO.
It doesn't -SEO is the manual labor of the internet. You'll probably take forever making any decent income if all you're doing is SEO -especially by yourself. That's the kind of shit you want to (HAVE TO) outsource to a manual laborer.
Sure, it's easy for me to say in hindsight because I wasted time starting out on shit like that too. But I think if you're still stuck in the mindset that 500 a month after 90 days is somehow acceptable (you can't even pay minimum wages for heavens sake) you need to wake up and stop treating IM as some kind of one dimensional hobby. Treat it like a business and you'll do a hell of a lot better.
Oh a second thing I noticed recurring here...don't quit your day job. what BS is that? In fact a few went even further and implied never quitting your day job because IM is a risky, unpredictable business.
Newsflash. IM IS NOT a business. It's a marketing channel. Building a business online is the equivalent of building a business downtown. The internet moves quick if you're trying to exploit it, but if you focus on the principals of business and actually build one then chances are that it's not going to go bankrupt next week because a Google update.
If you're making a decent amount online that you can live on and its not through some BH technique that might go out of style net week then quit your damn day job and put your ass to work for YOURSELF full time -you'll make a heck of a lot more. Some fat ass is already profiting off you at your day job anyway. Stop making him his food money and make it for yourself the moment that you can instead.
First of all everyone who says 0-500 a month income is "realistic" (a whopping 60% of people) are really looking at it wrong.
In what other business would 0-500 a month after 3 months of toiling be considered even remotely acceptable? NONE. $500 a month from a business is NOT a business, it might as well be bankrupt! you can't even pay yourself with that!
Yes, most brick and mortar businesses actually lose money due to interest rates and start up capital needs, poor management skills, etc. But they are considered failures. They close up shop and go bankrupt. 0-500/month online is considered a success? It's not. It's the equivalent of the corner store that goes bankrupt in it's first year (which most of them do).
I understand that if you've managed to make 500 then that can motivate you to work on bigger and better things.
But the reason people think that is something to shoot for is because they treat this business like a hobby. I notice that most of the guys who think that's a great goal are the guys who seem to equate IM with SEO. No seriously -a ton of people have got the idea that IM essentially starts and ends with doing SEO.
It doesn't -SEO is the manual labor of the internet. You'll probably take forever making any decent income if all you're doing is SEO -especially by yourself. That's the kind of shit you want to (HAVE TO) outsource to a manual laborer.
Sure, it's easy for me to say in hindsight because I wasted time starting out on shit like that too. But I think if you're still stuck in the mindset that 500 a month after 90 days is somehow acceptable (you can't even pay minimum wages for heavens sake) you need to wake up and stop treating IM as some kind of one dimensional hobby. Treat it like a business and you'll do a hell of a lot better.
Oh a second thing I noticed recurring here...don't quit your day job. what BS is that? In fact a few went even further and implied never quitting your day job because IM is a risky, unpredictable business.
Newsflash. IM IS NOT a business. It's a marketing channel. Building a business online is the equivalent of building a business downtown. The internet moves quick if you're trying to exploit it, but if you focus on the principals of business and actually build one then chances are that it's not going to go bankrupt next week because a Google update.
If you're making a decent amount online that you can live on and its not through some BH technique that might go out of style net week then quit your damn day job and put your ass to work for YOURSELF full time -you'll make a heck of a lot more. Some fat ass is already profiting off you at your day job anyway. Stop making him his food money and make it for yourself the moment that you can instead.
Nice post PhillipsPierce.
Reading that I remember myself a while ago...IM is definitely not just about SEO, plus with all the Google bullsh!t going on, it's almost impossible to rely on anything made from the SE traffic.
Diversity is the key, the more sh!t you do, the better.
Reading that I remember myself a while ago...IM is definitely not just about SEO, plus with all the Google bullsh!t going on, it's almost impossible to rely on anything made from the SE traffic.
Diversity is the key, the more sh!t you do, the better.
I spent the best part of a year reading as I couldn't do my own affiliate stuff due to work contract. I bought about 20 domains for myself though, which has worked out nicely as they are almost a year old before I've done anything with them. Bought hosting, Scrapebox etc. So overall I'm down... But the first site I've done for myself is picking up quicking and getting a few hundred uniques a day after being up for 3 weeks. Still not ranking top 20 for my main traffic generating terms though there's a lot of long tail and image searches bringing visitors. I have a couple Adsense units on there, but thinking about removing them for something better. Just have no idea how best to monetize my niche currently.
Generally Phillips attitude is the best one to take. Doing this part time will never put you in a mindset of making a lot of money. Building something on long term foundations will be the best way to make the big money quickly.
Generally Phillips attitude is the best one to take. Doing this part time will never put you in a mindset of making a lot of money. Building something on long term foundations will be the best way to make the big money quickly.
like in any business, first you need to invest money and than see fruits of your labor.
also it depends in what kind of a program are you, in my business (RX), after 2 months the affiliates start to earn from re-bills so as long as you are in the industry you earn just more and more...
also it depends in what kind of a program are you, in my business (RX), after 2 months the affiliates start to earn from re-bills so as long as you are in the industry you earn just more and more...
I'm 2 1/2 months in, and only have one site up and going so far. I'm not in a financial crunch (I've kept and plan on keeping my day job for the foreseeable future) so I've deliberately gone slow and am treating this like a learning experience. I have other sites in the works, I just haven't pulled the trigger yet for a variety of reasons. I've spent entirely too much time on forums and blogs reading and not nearly enough time doing.
My site gets 2200-2800 unique visitors per day and ranks top 3 for two dozen keywords. Those keywords just happen to bring me $0.10 to $0.25 AdSense clicks in most cases, unfortunately, and despite some layout and positioning tweaks, I can only get a CTR of 1% on good days. The keywords bring a good amount of traffic, but it doesn't convert.
So far I'm at about $270 gross revenue, using Adsense (about $70) and Clickbank (about $200). The bulk of that has come in the last two weeks. Assuming I can keep it at the top of the SERPs, I expect this single site to net me at least $500/mo if I play my cards right. I don't think I can get it much higher than that.
I'm pleased so far, especially since I've only put $70 into it - $15 for the domain, $40 for Fiverr content writing gigs, and $15 on a Buy/Sell/Trade offer.
I still haven't seen any actual money though. I was in the process of moving when Google sent me the AdSense postcard and that got lost, so I have to wait another 2 weeks before I can get the PIN to confirm my address and get a check. And I finally yesterday met (I think) Clickbanks card diversity requirements (2 different credit cards, 5 different numbers, PayPal doesn't count) to have a check sent. Once I get those, I'll get my next site going.
My site gets 2200-2800 unique visitors per day and ranks top 3 for two dozen keywords. Those keywords just happen to bring me $0.10 to $0.25 AdSense clicks in most cases, unfortunately, and despite some layout and positioning tweaks, I can only get a CTR of 1% on good days. The keywords bring a good amount of traffic, but it doesn't convert.
So far I'm at about $270 gross revenue, using Adsense (about $70) and Clickbank (about $200). The bulk of that has come in the last two weeks. Assuming I can keep it at the top of the SERPs, I expect this single site to net me at least $500/mo if I play my cards right. I don't think I can get it much higher than that.
I'm pleased so far, especially since I've only put $70 into it - $15 for the domain, $40 for Fiverr content writing gigs, and $15 on a Buy/Sell/Trade offer.
I still haven't seen any actual money though. I was in the process of moving when Google sent me the AdSense postcard and that got lost, so I have to wait another 2 weeks before I can get the PIN to confirm my address and get a check. And I finally yesterday met (I think) Clickbanks card diversity requirements (2 different credit cards, 5 different numbers, PayPal doesn't count) to have a check sent. Once I get those, I'll get my next site going.
I got started making money as a pro gamer (CS, SC, AoE). Wasn't much but was certaintly fun.
Eventually stumbled across the game Spark. Played that game for awhile and smoked weed all day. I met my wife on spark, and also met a guy who was in the ringtone niche. He ranked #1 for a LONG LONG time and made a lot from it. He eventually got into other things and stopped caring about the ringtone site. Anyway, we were talking and he saw potential. Hired me to write for him (wrote 2 articles), and then was paying me to link build. He taught me everything he knew, and I had learned some from other successful SEO's, affiliate marketers, lead gen pros, and a successful clickbank merchant.
Was making $500/week after 2 weeks. Eventually moved up to $700 week, and started working as a consultant.
Now I'm looking to get into a partnership with someone. My family/friends are clueless when it comes to what I do, and I came here (registered awhile ago for BST) to talk with both similar and very different minds.
Eventually stumbled across the game Spark. Played that game for awhile and smoked weed all day. I met my wife on spark, and also met a guy who was in the ringtone niche. He ranked #1 for a LONG LONG time and made a lot from it. He eventually got into other things and stopped caring about the ringtone site. Anyway, we were talking and he saw potential. Hired me to write for him (wrote 2 articles), and then was paying me to link build. He taught me everything he knew, and I had learned some from other successful SEO's, affiliate marketers, lead gen pros, and a successful clickbank merchant.
Was making $500/week after 2 weeks. Eventually moved up to $700 week, and started working as a consultant.
Now I'm looking to get into a partnership with someone. My family/friends are clueless when it comes to what I do, and I came here (registered awhile ago for BST) to talk with both similar and very different minds.