Religion of peace strikes again - horrible torture of Kenya victims

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Soldiers told of the horrific torture meted out by terrorists in the Nairobi mall massacre yesterday with claims hostages were dismembered, had their eyes gouged out and were left hanging from hooks in the ceiling.
Men were said to have been castrated and had fingers removed with pliers before being blinded and hanged.

Children were found dead in the food court fridges with knives still embedded in their bodies, it was claimed.

Read more: Kenya mall attack torture claims emerge from soldiers: 'Eyes gouged out, bodies on hooks, fingers removed' | Mail Online

Muslims.

Is it really so strange we want to throw these barbaric savages out of our countries?
 
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hostages were dismembered, had their eyes gouged out and were left hanging from hooks in the ceiling.
Men were said to have been castrated and had fingers removed with pliers before being blinded and hanged.
Horrible.

I don't know why people do this.

You gotta kill people? Just use the gun. Why bother with chopping down the body and shit like that?

Also, there are many western fighters increasingly taking part in suicide attacks. There was a white woman participant in this one too

Samantha Lewthwaite: Interpol issues global arrest warrant for White Widow | Mail Online

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^ Yes and there were several somali muslims who grew up in Minnesota.

You know what makes people behave like that: Islam.

It is the most hateful and barbaric movement ever invented. Since its inception, it has done nothing but bring war, slavery and strife wherever it goes. There is not a single place in the world where islam exists peacefully.

They stone people for fucks sake. They cut of their arms. They throw acid on women's faces, they kill little girls and blame it on blasphemy, they slit people's throaths, they hang people for being homosexual, the deny women the right to drive, study and travel alone, they kill young women for holding hands with an unbeliever and now they gouge out eyes of innocent people and cut of their genitals.

Is this really the cause you want to defend to feel better about yourself?

I am raging so hard now, seriously. Muslims need to be dealt with. I think it is time to honestly say that we are at war with Islam.
 
Collectivism, rusvik, collectivism. Of course, islam is one of many forms of collectivism. But we have seen, for example, the US Army do this kind of stuff.

You espouse "we" going to war is Islam? Who is "we"? Yet more collectivism. What is in your individual self interest?
 
We can't conclude a religion or a country based on a situation. No one dance around or party in times of anger. War has always been barbaric and it's the way it is. Just go back in history and read about the mid century wars. At that time, another religion would have probably be labelled as full of butchers.

Wonder how we conclude things these days. It's just creating more hate.
 
Collectivism, rusvik, collectivism. Of course, islam is one of many forms of collectivism. But we have seen, for example, the US Army do this kind of stuff.

You espouse "we" going to war is Islam? Who is "we"? Yet more collectivism. What is in your individual self interest?

You will never learn Mattseh, nor those like you, not until shit hits the fan and you become the victim of one of these savages.

I don't give a crap about the name of the beast. Humans are capable of great evil and that is why we must constantly fight those who appeal to the most animalistic instincts for their gain such as muhhamed the great rapist and slavetrader.

Don't you get it?

Muhammed was Hitler, actually worse. He invented this barbaric 'religion' to get his 20% of whatever his followers looted.

Islam is the most vile vomit ever characterized as religion.

Who are 'we' then? Only every person with eyes and ears. Shit is going to hit the fan soon enough Mattseh.
 
I'm muslim and i'm against these kinds of barbaric actions.

In all kind of religions, there was, there is and there will be extremism.
You can't judge a religion based on what a minority of followers does.
By the way, these actions are prohibited in islam and every scholar prohibit this.

Rusvik you seem to be hating islam, and i don't think i am wrong saying the majority of people might think as you do.
The problem is, what you people say about islam, reflect in no way the truth. Your opinion is based on what the medias feed you with.

Also, what you bring as facts are again wrong. I wouldn't even mind sparing some time talking about this and erase these false statements. Always coming with the same phrases about The prophet Muhamad, saying he was a rapist, a slavetrader or else.

Bring me facts, true facts you have learnt through your own research and not what Reddit or Foxnews fed you with . If you come with the truth then i will believe you.

You would be surprised if you known what islam did bring to the world and modern civilization.
 
I'm muslim and i'm against these kinds of barbaric actions.

In all kind of religions, there was, there is and there will be extremism.
You can't judge a religion based on what a minority of followers does.
By the way, these actions are prohibited in islam and every scholar prohibit this.

Rusvik you seem to be hating islam, and i don't think i am wrong saying the majority of people might think as you do.
The problem is, what you people say about islam, reflect in no way the truth. Your opinion is based on what the medias feed you with.

Also, what you bring as facts are again wrong. I wouldn't even mind sparing some time talking about this and erase these false statements. Always coming with the same phrases about The prophet Muhamad, saying he was a rapist, a slavetrader or else.

Bring me facts, true facts you have learnt through your own research and not what Reddit or Foxnews fed you with . If you come with the truth then i will believe you.

You would be surprised if you known what islam did bring to the world and modern civilization.
The killing of thousands of innocent people?
 
I'm muslim and i'm against these kinds of barbaric actions.

In all kind of religions, there was, there is and there will be extremism.
You can't judge a religion based on what a minority of followers does.
By the way, these actions are prohibited in islam and every scholar prohibit this.

Rusvik you seem to be hating islam, and i don't think i am wrong saying the majority of people might think as you do.
The problem is, what you people say about islam, reflect in no way the truth. Your opinion is based on what the medias feed you with.

Also, what you bring as facts are again wrong. I wouldn't even mind sparing some time talking about this and erase these false statements. Always coming with the same phrases about The prophet Muhamad, saying he was a rapist, a slavetrader or else.

Bring me facts, true facts you have learnt through your own research and not what Reddit or Foxnews fed you with . If you come with the truth then i will believe you.

You would be surprised if you known what islam did bring to the world and modern civilization.

Your reasoning is stupid.

You say, just because Islam is good SOME of the time [like 5% - lets be realistic], then its okay for it to exist and create war crime-scale type shit (and general daily treatment of a woman like she's a cheap Thai housemaid) the other 95% of the time. The FOUNDATION of this religion is to make you a slave - with all of its rules pointing to that. If only a "small minority is doing this radical shit" = only a small group loves being jihad slaves. Therefore, everyone else will probably rather keep their fingers, and be able to breathe - than keep some dumbass old thought around that enslaved everyone and did little to bring the community together.

No, that's not how it works. When things are bad 95% of the time - people should stop doing them.

I'm for disbanding Islam. Don't have to kill anyone except anyone who resists disbanding it (obviously devouts, and too far gone). I'm sure if the women were allowed to gather in community fashion outside of prayer - they'd enjoy a fucking bookclub more than general daily oppression. At least Catholics aren't running around killing people nowadays, just molesting their teenage daughters and going to church on Sundays.
 
I'm muslim and i'm against these kinds of barbaric actions.

One day you're going to be pitted against your fanatical brothers and the people they want to kill. At that point, you're going to have to make a decision. Do you side with your family or your supposed enemy? Who will you support?

At least Catholics aren't running around killing people nowadays...

Oh really?

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Plus every recent president has claimed to be some flavor of Christian or another, some admittedly thinking that they are actually doing god's work.
 
Homicide-Suicide
Hate heals, you should try it sometime
Strive for Peace with acts of war
The beauty of death we all adore
I have no faith distracting me
I know why your prayers will never be answered

God Hates Us All; God Hates Us All
 
In all kind of religions, there was, there is and there will be extremism. You can't judge a religion based on what a minority of followers does.

You say, just because Islam is good SOME of the time..., then its okay for it to exist and create war crime-scale type shit (and general daily treatment of a woman like she's a cheap Thai housemaid) the other 95% of the time.


That is not what Diaze said. Diaze is speaking of individuals. I will speak of individuals, too...

I live near a mosque. I know some of those who attend. I am neighbors with one of the families. The most irritating thing about the family is that the youngest boy is a brat (wails like a banshee). Otherwise, I like them. They grill, they swim, they laugh, and are good conversationalists.

All of them may secretly wish to behead me. But they have never said so nor done anything to indicate as much.
 
That is not what Diaze said. Diaze is speaking of individuals. I will speak of individuals, too...

I live near a mosque. I know some of those who attend. I am neighbors with one of the families. The most irritating thing about the family is that the youngest boy is a brat (wails like a banshee).

Overall, I like them. They grill, they swim, they laugh, and are good conversationalists.

All of them may secretly wish to behead me. But they have never said so or done anything to indicate as much.

Wow, anecdotal wishy washy mumbo jumbo from you, not what I would have expected.

Heck, you might even find some nazis or serial rapists to be agreeable fellows, but does that mean it holds any value as a statement about both groups?

It would be much easier if otherwise smart people like you wouldn't use Islam as a little tool to feel yourself better than others.
 
One day you're going to be pitted against your fanatical brothers and the people they want to kill. At that point, you're going to have to make a decision. Do you side with your family or your supposed enemy? Who will you support?



Oh really?

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Plus every recent president has claimed to be some flavor of Christian or another, some admittedly thinking that they are actually doing god's work.

What's your point? They don't take pleasure in mutilating people of their own free will.

They go and kill based on whatever propaganda is in their head that year. US Govt is just another islam, and they are just slaves of another.

What a US Catholic mouthbreathing soldier WON'T DO is rip the fingers off a child and then stick knives in them before leaving them in the fridge. They won't fucking do it.

No problem for Islam radicals tho. Not when you've been told for as long as you live "that the infidels are cockroaches - and torturing them shouldve make you smile and give you great pleasure". Probably related to the whole "valuing child and woman life very little" thing.

If they're taught not to be human - people shouldn't treat them like humans, its as simple as that.
 
What's your point? They don't take pleasure in mutilating people of their own free will.

They go and kill based on whatever propaganda is in their head that year. US Govt is just another islam, and they are just slaves of another.

What a US Catholic mouthbreathing soldier WON'T DO is rip the fingers off a child and then stick knives in them before leaving them in the fridge. They won't fucking do it.

No problem for Islam radicals tho. Not when you've been told for as long as you live "that the infidels are cockroaches - and torturing them shouldve make you smile and give you great pleasure". Probably related to the whole "valuing child and woman life very little" thing.

If they're taught not to be human - people shouldn't treat them like humans, its as simple as that.

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Point is that we can't solve things here... The best thing to do is to become good individuals or I would say "Human Beings".

No one's perfect. We can't be the judge so at least not spread more hate against each other. This debate will take us nowhere.
 
Wow, anecdotal wishy washy mumbo jumbo from you, not what I would have expected.

Heck, you might even find some nazis or serial rapists to be agreeable fellows, but does that mean it holds any value as a statement about both groups?

Establishing intent for an entire group is always problematic. Groups are comprised of individuals. Unless an individual expresses said intent (vocally or through his actions), how is it possible to assign it to him?


It would be much easier if otherwise smart people like you wouldn't use Islam as a little tool to feel yourself better than others.

I don't know what that means.