Religion of peace strikes again - horrible torture of Kenya victims



I'm muslim and i'm against these kinds of barbaric actions.

In all kind of religions, there was, there is and there will be extremism.
You can't judge a religion based on what a minority of followers does.
By the way, these actions are prohibited in islam and every scholar prohibit this.

Rusvik you seem to be hating islam, and i don't think i am wrong saying the majority of people might think as you do.
The problem is, what you people say about islam, reflect in no way the truth. Your opinion is based on what the medias feed you with.

Also, what you bring as facts are again wrong. I wouldn't even mind sparing some time talking about this and erase these false statements. Always coming with the same phrases about The prophet Muhamad, saying he was a rapist, a slavetrader or else.

Bring me facts, true facts you have learnt through your own research and not what Reddit or Foxnews fed you with . If you come with the truth then i will believe you.

You would be surprised if you known what islam did bring to the world and modern civilization.

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And yet - hundreds of people at that mall will have been saved by this guy - a muslim civilian with a gun:

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Revealed: American family rescued by hero of attack on Nairobi's Westgate mall - Telegraph

Yards away a man with a pistol who was shooting at a heavily armed young jihadi in a bandanna who was taunting him to come closer.

That man was Abdul Haji, the son of a former security minister in the Kenyan government, who had rushed to the mall after getting a text message from his brother who was trapped inside.

"We saw a lot of dead people. Very young people, children, old ladies, you cannot imagine," Mr Haji told the Kenyan television station NTV.

"From what they were doing, you could tell that these were not normal people. The fact that he was making a joke out of this whole thing made me much more angry and determined to engage them, and to shame them."

Mr Haji said his father taught him to use a gun to protect their cattle from bandits when he was growing up.

Last Saturday, he used his skills to provide fire cover for the Kenyan Red Cross workers and, over a period of three hours, help to evacuate some of the 1,000 people who escaped the mall in the initial stages of a siege that would last three days and leave at least 72 people dead.

I would have thought you'd have been all over the story, since he was a civilian with a gun. Perhaps the Muslim bit cancelled that out?

Dilemmas, dilemmas - which is your pet narrative - all muslims are bad and it's impossible for them to be heroes - or civilians with guns save lives, everyone should be armed, even muslims?
 
Point is that we can't solve things here... The best thing to do is to become good individuals or I would say "Human Beings".

No one's perfect. We can't be the judge so at least not spread more hate against each other. This debate will take us nowhere.

Yes we should hug it out bro.
 
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Destroy religion, its time to grow up and stop having those imaginary friends.

In a few hundred years I'm sure we'll look back and wonder why it took so long for religion to die off, it is pretty crazy that it's still rife, what with science and the internet.
 
You say, just because Islam is good SOME of the time [like 5% - lets be realistic]

There's 1.6 billion Muslims in the world (23% of the world's population). So if only 5% of them are decent folk, that means there's 1.52 billion bat-shit, crazy, lunatic, homicidal Muslims out there screaming "Allah Ahkbar!", while waving machetes around. Ummm, yeah...
 
There's 1.6 billion Muslims in the world (23% of the world's population). So if only 5% of them are decent folk, that means there's 1.52 billion bat-shit, crazy, lunatic, homicidal Muslims out there screaming "Allah Ahkbar!", while waving machetes around. Ummm, yeah...

You mean there aren't?

PS - I said 5% of Islam. As a faith. I never read Quran - but if their display of "what the Quran is about to ignorant people of the world who judge by first impression" is to blow shit up and dismember people, they haven't grasped the whole "it's supposed to be about love", Beatles stuff either. 95% of the Islam they practice is all "removing your temptations" which apparently means to force the temptations to be overdressed and overoppressed slaves who aren't allowed to do anything and then treating the rest as a lower life form in general.

Why is anyone white knighting radical Muslims. They'd skin your ass alive if you weren't behind a computer screen - get with the side trying to quell religion and violence.
 
Why is anyone white knighting radical Muslims. They'd skin your ass alive if you weren't behind a computer screen - get with the side trying to quell religion and violence.

Because you're blaming the wrong cause. I don't have a problem going to a region full of Muslims. However, I do have an issue going to a war torn area of the world, where poverty is strife, and the majority struggle daily for the basic necessities. Those areas I'll probably stay away from.

I'm sure spending a couple weeks in somewhere like Tehran would be great though, and I'd have a blast. I'm sure I'd get on with the locals just fine, and am quite confident I wouldn't be skinned alive in the process.
 
If you were a space alien looking down on Earth, you would think every human on either side of the argument are blood thirsty murderers.... are there really any good guys when killing people?