Richard Dawkins to Arrest The Pope



Weeee, another newspaper spinning things completely out of hand:

Comment #478580 by Richard Dawkins on April 11, 2010 at 8:48 am
Needless to say, I did NOT say "I will arrest Pope Benedict XVI" or anything so personally grandiloquent. You have to remember that The Sunday Times is a Murdoch newspaper, and that all newspapers follow the odd custom of entrusting headlines to a sub-editor, not the author of the article itself.

What I DID say to Marc Horne when he telephoned me out of the blue, and I repeat it here, is that I am whole-heartedly behind the initiative by Geoffrey Robertson and Mark Stephens to mount a legal challenge to the Pope's proposed visit to Britain. Beyond that, I declined to comment to Marc Horme, other than to refer him to my 'Ratzinger is the Perfect Pope' article here: 'Ratzinger is the Perfect Pope' by Richard Dawkins - The Washington Post - RichardDawkins.net

Here is what really happened. Christopher Hitchens first proposed the legal challenge idea to me on March 14th. I responded enthusiastically, and suggested the name of a high profile human rights lawyer whom I know. I had lost her address, however, and set about tracking her down. Meanwhile, Christopher made the brilliant suggestion of Geoffrey Robertson. He approached him, and Mr Robertson's subsequent 'Put the Pope in the Dock' article in The Guardian shows him to be ideal:
'Put the pope in the dock' by Geoffrey Robertson - guardian.co.uk - RichardDawkins.net
The case is obviously in good hands, with him and Mark Stephens. I am especially intrigued by the proposed challenge to the legality of the Vatican as a sovereign state whose head can claim diplomatic immunity.

Even if the Pope doesn't end up in the dock, and even if the Vatican doesn't cancel the visit, I am optimistic that we shall raise public consciousness to the point where the British government will find it very awkward indeed to go ahead with the Pope's visit, let alone pay for it.

Richard
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'Richard Dawkins: I will arrest Pope Benedict XVI' by Marc Horne - TimesOnline - RichardDawkins.net
 
SandnSurf said:
Dawkins & the Pope's crew are both purveyors of BS, lies & misinformation.
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This. Although I do like Dawkins more than the Pope, he is still quite confused in the whole scheme of things. Disproving religion and then saying God doesn't exist. Only touching on the negative aspects of religion and not the positive. Failing to entertain ideas outside of the scope of our current scientific tools. The guy isn't all that special. He's just another materialist stuck in the current paradigm of our scientific tools afraid to venture outside of them. He's really not much different from the Pope in that he promotes scientific fanaticism as opposed to religious fanaticism.

As for the Pope. Well let's just say these guys should go back and read history and see just who crowns the Monarchs of Europe. The Pope is much more connected to the secret societies and banks manipulating this world than people give him credit for. The Vatican never goes down without a bloody battle.
 
The pope, the church, and the rest of the sellers of the most famous superstition are simply cashing in on bullshit. At least Dawkins is trying to do good by stopping this destructive charade. Obviously he won't arrest the pope, but the man makes the whole of the church combined, look thick in comparison to his undoubted genius.

Anything he does to make people think for themselves is good for the world.
 
What ever you feel about Dawkins (I tend to appreciate him stirring up talk about subjects that people never even consider, but I still tend to think he's a little fanatic/extreme) He has a point here, no one should be above the law and it's about time that this perpetuation of child rape shit by a gigantic institution was dealt with head on.
 
slayerment said:
Disproving religion and then saying God doesn't exist.
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Dawkins never tried to disprove religion and never claimed that there is no god. Try again.

slayerment said:
Only touching on the negative aspects of religion and not the positive.
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Dawkins have talked about the positive aspects of religion a lot of times. But they never really compare to the negative aspects.
 
slayerment said:
This. Although I do like Dawkins more than the Pope, he is still quite disillusioned in the whole scheme of things. Disproving religion and then saying God doesn't exist. Only touching on the negative aspects of religion and not the positive. Failing to entertain ideas outside of the scope of our current scientific tools. The guy isn't all that special. He's just another materialist stuck in the current paradigm of our scientific tools afraid to venture outside of them. He's really not much different from the Pope in that he promotes scientific fanaticism as opposed to religious fanaticism.

As for the Pope. Well let's just say these guys should go back and read history and see just who crowns the Monarchs of Europe. The Pope is much more connected to the secret societies and banks manipulating this world than people give him credit for. The Vatican never goes down without a bloody battle.
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Clearly you haven't read a word Dawkins has ever written... How can you think he's a fanatic? He's just opposing bullshit dogma and providing something closer to proof and reasoning than any religionist could ever fumble over.

And back to the fanatism thing, does he ask for money?

Does he go around knocking on peoples doors asking to read from a science book?

Does he say they will die a painful death if they don't believe him and a wonderful death if they do?

Does he start wars on people who oppose him?

Does he insist people come to a big building numerous times a week, sing songs, donate money and get bored, just so they have a nice death, or else?

Does he crash planes into buildings?

Does he stand on a plinth in cities reading from an old book rewritten 40,000 times and wasn't even first written until 400 years after the events had supposedly occurred and them proclaim it as true?

I could carry on all day... Religion is fucking evil and closed minded. Dawkins promotes open thinking, which is a good thing in the modern world. By being an atheist I don't chose science over religion, I chose no religion.

I don't need to try and prove something else to be true to vindicate my non-beliefs, simply because i have no beliefs. That's how religionists think, it's the way they've been taught. "If you can't prove it's not true, then it must be!" Come on, that's bullshit, read about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Look, I simply don't believe. I don't have to prove something else to justify my reasons, because I don't believe in anything, so therefore have nothing to prove.
 
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