Rutgers student suicide over hidden cam..

JakeStratham said:
crackp0t, you use words without the proper definitions. What is "voyeuristic rape?" No offense to you personally, but it sounds like a phrase used by dumb people because they hear it on the news, and the words sound nice and seem inflammatory. "Rape" involves physical assault. I have not seen such an assault reported here. Even in cases where spectators watch a gang rape, there is no assault on the part of the spectators. The phrase is without value.

You said the roommate is a "sex offender." According to whom? You? From where did you pull this definition? For reference, here is what Wikipedia says:

Definitions are neglected in debate by those who are mentally lazy. All that is left is emotion.
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I didn't coin the term voyeuristic rape. It's a published term to describe this type of sexual offense. It's basically a visual violation of sexual boundaries for sexual arousal. Another example of voyeuristic rape would be an inmate at a correctional facility jerking it to a female guard without her consent. Even if the genitalia of the inmate is not exposed to the female officer they are charged with a crime.

Please see the above why he's a sexual offender.
 


crackp0t said:
I didn't coin the term voyeuristic rape. It's a published term to describe this type of sexual offense. It's basically a visual violation of sexual boundaries for sexual arousal. Another example of voyeuristic rape would be an inmate at a correctional facility jerking it to a female guard without her consent. Even if the genitalia of the inmate is not exposed to the female officer they are charged with a crime.

Please see the above why he's a sexual offender.
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So, we charge all the viewers of the video with participating in voyeuristic rape?
 
crackp0t said:
I didn't coin the term voyeuristic rape.
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Nor did I suggest anything of the sort.

crackp0t said:
It's a published term to describe this type of sexual offense.
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No. It is a term that has been used to describe an event. Nothing more. Whether that event poses a sexual offense is not agreed upon.

crackp0t said:
It's basically a visual violation of sexual boundaries for sexual arousal.
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Says who? You? There are hundreds of millions of people in the U.S. Are you saying that everyone agrees with your definition? If not, why do you get to choose it? Why don't I get to choose it?

See the problem here? If people can just pull arbitrary definitions from their asses, and make them stick, then we are all in big trouble.

crackp0t said:
Another example of voyeuristic rape would be an inmate at a correctional facility jerking it to a female guard without her consent. Even if the genitalia of the inmate is not exposed to the female officer they are charged with a crime.
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I'm assuming this has already happened, and the crime was not dismissed. If this is the case, cite it.

crackp0t said:
Please see the above why he's a sexual offender.
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You have not supported your position with anything more than words. Until you do, I consider it nothing more than words. I, on the other hand, have posted Wikipedia's definition. That seems to be a reasonable reflection of our current legislation.

This is my last response to you in this thread. You will have the last word. From your posts, I have no confidence you will approach this topic with logic.
 
cv735 said:
not everyone's machoism is like yours tuff guy... remember, he was gay...probably didn't know how to fight...per say.
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Machoism doesn't come into it.

If you don't know how to set personal boundaries and don't know how to enforce them, you should go get a sex change.

Per say.
 
megatabbers said:
This!

I mean, it's pretty sad what happened but WTF is wrong with youngings today.

"Oh no... They're making fun of me. I'll kill myself and show everybody!"
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Look at him he's a goon, sits in his room all day fucking blokes so he's not normal, in fact any gay person isn't 'normal' because gays couldn't run a planet 'naturally'.

His life, his 2x fuck ups, who cares.
 
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hahahaha stupid indian and chinese student probably shitting their pants and regretting at the joke backfire. they deserve prison time.

not to mention they can kiss their careers and future time at university good bye.

what a retarded thing to do. their parents came to this country and worked their ass off to put their kids to school, and what do they do ? they cause some kid to commit suicide, face expulsion, criminal record.

Job Interview: "Oh shit u was the one who made that faggot commit suicide "
Ravi: "Yes"
Job Interview: "Unfortunately we have other gay people in our work force who may feel uncomfrotable with you on board"

Molly's Mom: "YOU BITCH YOU BRING DISHONOR TO OUR FAMILY. NOW COUSIN AND NEIGHBOR THINK THE CHINESE BITCH GONE MAD"
mOLLY: bwat moooom it wasn't my fault
Molly's Mom: "Please commit suicide to restore dishonor"
 
It's unfortunate that a life was lost. Maybe this is what it takes, to make people think twice before deliberately ruining (the perception) of ones life. It is NOT ok to broadcast anyones private behavior without their permission.

It's easy for everyone here to say "he should of just embraced it and moved on", because his mindset clearly thought coming out was not an option.

Who knows what kind of punishment should be dealt to Ravi. It was a dick move. Hopefully he can move forward and no longer use people as targets to make himself feel good.
 
Versus said:
It's unfortunate that a life was lost. Maybe this is what it takes, to make people think twice before deliberately ruining (the perception) of ones life. It is NOT ok to broadcast anyones private behavior without their permission.

It's easy for everyone here to say "he should of just embraced it and moved on", because his mindset clearly thought coming out was not an option.

Who knows what kind of punishment should be dealt to Ravi. It was a dick move. Hopefully he can move forward and no longer use people as targets to make himself feel good.
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plus the fact that he is indian. Apparently, there's a positive correlation between the severity of punishment and the darkness of your skin in USA.
 
What makes you think that they will have a terrible life? People might admire them secretly for outing gays.

I bet 90% of wickedfire members thank them for what they did secretly.

COME ON let your true feelings out.

murakami said:
Maybe for the chinese girl. counselling, crying tears saying sorry, she's probably off the hook.

But darkness looms for the indian guy. Not long until he is linked to terrorism, islam etc.
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