SCHOOL SHOOTING ... FUCK

flx89 said:
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The fuck is this fake shit. The fuck is wrong with you?

You're telling me a kid wrote this AS the shooting was going on? Are you fucking stupid? And you happend to get a copy and post it on the internet from where? Parents are still picking up their kids.

Does this look like Facebook to you, posting that fake shit? Kids are dead, and you come in here with this internet troll shit. Fuck you. And you're an idiot if you can't see this shit was fucking fake.
 


CCarter said:
The fuck is this fake shit. The fuck is wrong with you?

You're telling me a kid wrote this AS the shooting was going on? Are you fucking stupid? And you happend to get a copy and post it on the internet from where? Parents are still picking up their kids.

Does this look like Facebook to you, posting that fake shit? Kids are dead, and you come in here with this internet troll shit. Fuck you. And you're an idiot if you can't see this shit was fucking fake.
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Agree! Someone's fishing for Reddit Karma or FB likes, pretty low/pathetic!
 
Facebook will be society's poison, it's an evil social virus and people don't even see it.
 
Man i can't hold in the tears poor kids who survived will never be the same and right before christmas. Fuck sake
 
CCarter said:
The fuck is this fake shit. The fuck is wrong with you?

You're telling me a kid wrote this AS the shooting was going on? Are you fucking stupid? And you happend to get a copy and post it on the internet from where? Parents are still picking up their kids.

Does this look like Facebook to you, posting that fake shit? Kids are dead, and you come in here with this internet troll shit. Fuck you. And you're an idiot if you can't see this shit was fucking fake.
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Buddy...are you stupid? People here started to talk about monetizing this tragedy... i have only posted an example to show how others have already started doing that. And guess what, my idiot friend...even some celebrities have tweeted that shit....

Yes that's pathetic to benefit from such a tragedy....and even more pathetic to write fake news

PS: you are the idiot here in case you didn't get it
 
I'm split on the issue of gun control, because obviously the easier it is to get a gun, the greater the danger of a lunatic killing others instead of just themselves. These kind of things happen in all countries, but where there are less guns, the result is usually either suicide or just one victim.

In this case and others, we really should be forced to look at the parents role. They're the ones who brought up these kids. I refuse to believe that people are just born evil. Most likely it's a result of neglect and abuse. This guy killed his parents. That should be a clue.

Fundamentally, I think the reason for these outbursts is a lack of involvement in the community and with others in general. The modern lifestyle makes it all to easy to shun those who doesn't immediatly fit in. I'd like to think that we could all do more to try and include those 'loners and misfits' more into society. Doesn't have to be their best friends, but just say hi, have a chat with the weird kid in school instead of bullying them.
 
CCarter said:
The fuck is this fake shit. The fuck is wrong with you?

You're telling me a kid wrote this AS the shooting was going on? Are you fucking stupid? And you happend to get a copy and post it on the internet from where? Parents are still picking up their kids.

Does this look like Facebook to you, posting that fake shit? Kids are dead, and you come in here with this internet troll shit. Fuck you. And you're an idiot if you can't see this shit was fucking fake.
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curios where did i got that?....Robert Herjavec from Shark tank retweeted:

https://twitter.com/robertherjavec
 
teatree said:
That implies people in poorer areas are better parents. But is there any evidence of this (apart from the religious texts - poor shall inherit the earth etc).
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What? How does that imply people in poorer areas are better parents?

teatree said:
I think it's more to do with interaction/socialising than anything else.
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Yes, it's about interaction, with the most important interaction coming from those that raise you.

teatree said:
Example: Japan is a very crowded island, mountainous, mostly uninhabitable, so they are all 121 million of them, squashed together on the coasts. They are forced to interact and deal with each other on a daily basis. They have a low murder rate, and only one massacre, the sarin gas attack in 1995 which was set off by an isolated cult.

Britain has a very different culture from Japan, but we are also crowded and by necessity have to interact with each other on a daily basis. We're 63 million, and we've had three massacres in the last 25 years - Hungerford 1987, Dunblane 1996 and Derrick Bird 2010.

America has about 300 million people - if you were experiencing massacres at the same frequency as us you would have had a total of 15 in the last 25 years. But it's several multiples of that, isn't it? And they always occur in these suburban spots, so you can't even claim it's down to "America" because urban America is behaving very differently.

So it must be down to isolation and lack of social interaction. Or your gun laws, take your pick.
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Culture plays a large role when it concerns how we raise our children. Americans I believe have some of the most disconnected and fucked up beliefs when it concerns parenting. Everything is about "me me me" when you're a parent here. From scheduled C-Sections "to get this thing out of me on my terms", to a very quick transition from breastfeeding to bottle feeding (a lack of touch), to forcing them in their cribs from day 1 instead of co-sleeping (lack of touch), to corporal punishment.

Add on top of that, you have this strange contradiction where we're taught as young ones we shouldn't hit or steal to solve problems, but then we see as adults that's essentially the backbone of solving problems. Add on top of that religion and using fear to indoctrinate children at an early age. Add on top of that these public school systems which mirror prisons at almost every level.

It has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the environment in which we grow.

Now certainly, getting out there and socializing with community is beneficial; but not more important than the interaction you get from those that raise you.
 
dchuk said:
You have ZERO evidence to back up this claim, only that at some point in the past, our government has not told us the truth. If you can show me one SINGLE bit of evidence to back up this claim at all, I might give you the time of day to continue. But right now you sound fucking stupid.



WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?? Per your reasoning, for all we know it could have been a team of crazed unicorns with guns instead of horns.



Yes, we can. We can say that a young adult shot his dad, then went to his mom's school and shot the principal, the guidance counselor, his mother, and a bunch of innocent kids. How do we know this? Because they have found:

1) his dead dad
2) his dead mom
3) dead school workers
4) a classroom of dead fucking kids
5) a dead young adult, wearing a mask, carrying guns, and wearing a bullet proof vest, at the school

So, there's my evidence that this was a deranged young man who did something sick and despicable. So now, please counter with ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR STUPID FUCKING CLAIMS.

EDIT: The reason I am so pissed at you doubting idiots is because as soon as you cast doubt on this tragedy you're trivializing the real problem here - that a bunch of innocent adults and completely innocent young children were murdered in cold blood. Instead of showing support for the losses so many families are experiencing, your dumb ass is looking for attention for your stupid conspiracy theory, which will divert attention away from the real tragedy today: a bunch of parents aren't going to be putting their kids to bed tonight because some fuckhead did a horrible thing.

So stop coming up with conspiracy theories, it's offensive and juvenile
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Completely agreed
 
rusvik said:
I'm split on the issue of gun control, because obviously the easier it is to get a gun, the greater the danger of a lunatic killing others instead of just themselves. These kind of things happen in all countries, but where there are less guns, the result is usually either suicide or just one victim.

In this case and others, we really should be forced to look at the parents role. They're the ones who brought up these kids. I refuse to believe that people are just born evil. Most likely it's a result of neglect and abuse. This guy killed his parents. That should be a clue.

Fundamentally, I think the reason for these outbursts is a lack of involvement in the community and with others in general. The modern lifestyle makes it all to easy to shun those who doesn't immediatly fit in. I'd like to think that we could all do more to try and include those 'loners and misfits' more into society. Doesn't have to be their best friends, but just say hi, have a chat with the weird kid in school instead of bullying them.
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I believe some people are born "evil", or rather, amoral, with no compassion, feelings of guilt or empathy, and driven by their own selfish desires. Someone with those traits can quite easily perform evil acts, not that this is the case with this murderer; but you seem to think it's all nurture and no nature. I think it's a combination.

As for, "we really should be forced to look at the parents"; we're talking about a 20 year old man. Let's look at the guy that pulled the trigger.
As an adult, unless you're mentally ill, you have to take full responsibility for your actions.
 
teatree said:
Or your gun laws, take your pick.
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Drugs are illegal yet everyone and their mother seems to get high. How is this possible under your brilliant thought process, "banning things make them impossible to get"?

It's simply astounding how many fucking retards think banning guns will ever stop an insane or evil human being from committing an atrocity.
 
quintana said:
As for, "we really should be forced to look at the parents"; we're talking about a 24 year old man. Let's look at the guy that pulled the trigger.
As an adult, unless you're mentally ill, you have to take full responsibility for your actions.
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There's a massive amount of evidence that shows how you're raised, plays a significant role in who you'll be as an adult. Children who are beat, molested, neglected, have a significantly higher risk of developing a whole host of negative mental conditions. Looking at how a person is raised is entirely relevant, because that's how we break the cycle of violence. For every asshole who parents his children the way he was parented, will likely produce another asshole.

Of course that doesn't excuse his actions, but it's not as if a light was flipped in this guys head this morning and decided to become a mass murderer.
 
You're all over-analyzing this stuff w/out knowing any facts yet. But here are few..

- There are over 7 billion people on earth and 311 million in the US alone.

- The human mind is the force behind all human behavior.

- Human minds can be effected or damaged by physical trauma, temporary or permanent chemical interaction (drugs/food), genetics, what they saw growing up, etc, etc, etc, and etc.

- Mass media guarantees we'll see all tragedies in front of us within seconds of it happening.

So the real question is.. with so many people in the world and so many ways to fuck up a human mind.. why don't we see this shit happen more often?

This situation is sad, but the world isn't going to hell. Things aren't worse than before. IMO they're better than you should expect considering 7 billion people and instant access to all tragedies.
 
dreamache said:
What? How does that imply people in poorer areas are better parents?
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My original post was a response to Brandonbaker's observation that these types of massacres don't occur in Compton or Detroit but in suburbia.

My observation was that people in poorer neighbourhoods lived on top of each other, had to interact with each other, and in the process of interaction developed empathy and reduced inclination to commit massacres, whereas people who are isolated can and do distance themselves from their victims and see them as things rather than humans.

You responded by saying that you thought parenting was more important than socialising/interaction. I merely observed in response that your hypothesis implied that poorer areas had better parenting, and that couldn't possibly be true.

It seems unlikely that parenting in Compton and Detroit is better than parenting in Connecticut or whatever place this gunman was from. So parenting, while important, cannot be the main cause.

How else do you explain the way these massacres are occurring in isolated middle class suburbia rather than in crowded urban areas? It can't be down to superior parenting in urban areas (though I'm willing to be convinced if you have evidence).
 
dreamache said:
There's a massive amount of evidence that shows how you're raised, plays a significant role in who you'll be as an adult. Children who are beat, molested, neglected, have a significantly higher risk of developing a whole host of negative mental conditions. Looking at how a person is raised is entirely relevant, because that's how we break the cycle of violence. For every asshole who parents his children the way he was parented, will likely produce another asshole.

Of course that doesn't excuse his actions, but it's not as if a light was flipped in this guy's head this morning and decided to become a mass murderer.
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Yes, and I stated I think it's a combination of nature and nurture that makes a person what they are, but I believe it's unfair, so early on, to start saying 'let's blame the parents' when we're looking at the actions of another adult.
 
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