See how much % you are getting SHAVED
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Off on a tangent here...
What are the pros and cons of Network A brokering the offer to Network B and what does the latter usually have to pay to broker through them?
Some advertisers take advantage of shaving...however in some cases while you may get a lot more sign ups on your own lead gen offer, how many of those leads have all the correct info to contact the prospect? 10% probably have garbage names/phone numbers.
There are a lot of variables but for the most part I think advertisers are just really god damn greedy.
I had an offer the other day that did a little under $200 with Network A who has always performed like shit. Ran with legit Network B and the same offer/creative/data/everything wound up doing about $400.
Network A said "Network B must not be updating the suppression file daily like we do and its affecting your conversion" da fuq?
There are a lot of variables but for the most part I think advertisers are just really god damn greedy.
I had an offer the other day that did a little under $200 with Network A who has always performed like shit. Ran with legit Network B and the same offer/creative/data/everything wound up doing about $400.
Network A said "Network B must not be updating the suppression file daily like we do and its affecting your conversion" da fuq?
It's shit like this.
Yes, there is tons of excuses that the networks have.
Until you notice their whole business is an excuse
White labels
What about having white labels of the offer pages installed on your domains ?
there are some networks offering white labels' features while all your need is to get a domain and the network will host and generate the offer on it .
This for sure solves returning/late traffic cookie losses issues. but does it solves other tracking "bugs" which can occur in the internal algo of the network ? in most cases, can not know until you try and compare
What about having white labels of the offer pages installed on your domains ?
there are some networks offering white labels' features while all your need is to get a domain and the network will host and generate the offer on it .
This for sure solves returning/late traffic cookie losses issues. but does it solves other tracking "bugs" which can occur in the internal algo of the network ? in most cases, can not know until you try and compare
It's shit like this.
Yes, there is tons of excuses that the networks have.
Until you notice their whole business is an excuse
I agree with you, most of the time advertisers and networks are full of shit.
I'm amazed more networks aren't accused of shaving since its pretty easy to tell and word travels. We should have a poll.
You do know that ANY offer that doesn't post on Server to server, fingerprint or passed url variable tracking is LOSING approximately 10-30% of your conversions on average? Yup, fact!
I am in a situation where I am running offers and setting up offers on the same networks and see both sides. Changing tracking over to anything that doesn't rely on cookies, img or iframe pixels will instantly increase conversions! That's why most offers are set up with the "standard" pixel/cookie tracking.
Sure there is scrub on top of this but those who claim everything is scrubbed hard is probably referring to this! ^^^
I am in a situation where I am running offers and setting up offers on the same networks and see both sides. Changing tracking over to anything that doesn't rely on cookies, img or iframe pixels will instantly increase conversions! That's why most offers are set up with the "standard" pixel/cookie tracking.
Sure there is scrub on top of this but those who claim everything is scrubbed hard is probably referring to this! ^^^
its not shaving if the numbers/zips/info is pure garbage. go ahead and follow those leads, tell us how it works out for you