Shoemoney system got 6 months old in 1 day wow
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Who the fuck is jealous of SM? I'm jealous of his pool but thats about it.
The fact remains that as with any other Noob Product Launch, the noobs will be taken to the fucking cleaners and maybe (big maybe) a tiny few will make a small profit from what he teaches. Going after noobs is easy and if thats your thing, good for you. But for a while he did have some good shit on that blog. Now he wants to be the Dayjobkiller guys.
The fact remains that as with any other Noob Product Launch, the noobs will be taken to the fucking cleaners and maybe (big maybe) a tiny few will make a small profit from what he teaches. Going after noobs is easy and if thats your thing, good for you. But for a while he did have some good shit on that blog. Now he wants to be the Dayjobkiller guys.
Meh, day job killer guys made what a million on their launch day?
Let's not pretend like there's a difference between offers like day job killer or Shoemoney's thing and Google cash offers - both sell shit to noobs who have no hope.
Shoe's doing his thing and doing it right. His blog got big, he probably didn't make the cash he wanted last year, and is getting into selling stuff to noobs who want nothing more then to buy more, and more from him.
Let's not pretend like there's a difference between offers like day job killer or Shoemoney's thing and Google cash offers - both sell shit to noobs who have no hope.
Shoe's doing his thing and doing it right. His blog got big, he probably didn't make the cash he wanted last year, and is getting into selling stuff to noobs who want nothing more then to buy more, and more from him.
I actually signed up for it, but it so geared to noobs it's probably of no value to anyone with more than 3 months of experience. I've been trying to get a refund since about an 1hr after I signed up for it. The total cost of the system per user is $2,364/year. So you'd think he could cut down on the paid actors, and I dunno, hire a guy in Malaysia to do nothing but email support? Guess not.
The TOS posted isn't even for the system: this is the first line: "The following are the terms and conditions for use of the ShoeMoney Tools – (”ShoeMoney”) Internet marketing tools service (”Service”). Please read them carefully before using the Service."
Well thats real useful. Not only do they not send automatic confirmation emails for support, but the TOS telling me how to cancel my account isn't even for the service I just bought. They're staggering in features that should've been up from launch to boot. Like an admin panel which is where the mythical cancel subscription link is supposed to be. Yea, the product just launched, but honestly, there are no excuses for a service that costs about as much as a lease of a Ford Focus.
I noticed something thats really borderline unethical. There is a big list of affiliate networks, advertising networks, etc. Some of the exit links are unmasked referral links. I don't see anything wrong with doing that for a free service. But, these people are paying $197/mo. You know what I'm saying? http://imgur.com/DqOk7.jpg
Hows the System? Who knows. They start from creating a Google Account. So I'm not sure if I'd qualify this as a cash system, or literally like getting a certificate from a college. It's structured to be more like school than anything.
The TOS posted isn't even for the system: this is the first line: "The following are the terms and conditions for use of the ShoeMoney Tools – (”ShoeMoney”) Internet marketing tools service (”Service”). Please read them carefully before using the Service."
Well thats real useful. Not only do they not send automatic confirmation emails for support, but the TOS telling me how to cancel my account isn't even for the service I just bought. They're staggering in features that should've been up from launch to boot. Like an admin panel which is where the mythical cancel subscription link is supposed to be. Yea, the product just launched, but honestly, there are no excuses for a service that costs about as much as a lease of a Ford Focus.
I noticed something thats really borderline unethical. There is a big list of affiliate networks, advertising networks, etc. Some of the exit links are unmasked referral links. I don't see anything wrong with doing that for a free service. But, these people are paying $197/mo. You know what I'm saying? http://imgur.com/DqOk7.jpg
Hows the System? Who knows. They start from creating a Google Account. So I'm not sure if I'd qualify this as a cash system, or literally like getting a certificate from a college. It's structured to be more like school than anything.
You guys tired of working from 9-5? Be you own boss. Seriously. Just buy the SMS.
What Shoemoney system has brought to me
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What Shoemoney system has brought to me
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according to compete.com shoemoneys blog gets almost double the traffic of wickedfire. Thats pretty fucking impressive.
Think of all the retards you could sell stuff to on a regular basis
people talk shit about him, but he's doing pretty well as far as i can tell.
Think of all the retards you could sell stuff to on a regular basis
people talk shit about him, but he's doing pretty well as far as i can tell.
Don't presume to speak for the entirety of WF or follow the rest of the sheeple for that matter. Especially when it comes to making sweeping generalizations.
When did I (or anyone else here for that matter) claim otherwise? My point is that it makes absolutely no difference.
I'm sorry, but this is just beyond dumb. Are you saying he doesn't deserve it because he accidentally stumbled across it? (which is basically how everyone and their mom has come across aff marketing) Or that he shouldn't have milked it once he recognised the opportunity? (which is exactly what a smart person would do) Even worse, are you saying you wouldn't have milked it dry once you saw the gold mine?
Right, cuz we all know that every single venture/campaign we all start is a massive rousing success. Any smart marketer knows there's a small percentage of projects that actually work out. At least he had the balls to openly come out and say he failed, and that too when nobody called him out to begin with.
Actually, it's called HATING. Stop getting mad that he's making millions and focus instead on making your own bank.
For the record, I have my own beef with shoe, but on this one, I gotta give him props.
Sigh, you are so fking stupid I don't even know where to start. Read the posts above me please.
Bullshit. The right connections can save you time AND effort.
Not speaking about SMS at all here, but just in general. Go ahead and ask anyone why you should go to an event like affiliate summit -- because you'll learn more from the connections than you would any other way. Bottom line.
Lol at all this hating. If Shoe really filled it up with 500 subscribers paying monthly for bullshit... kudos. Don't hate the player. I think it's fucking genius actually, the man is a born hustler.
And it's not targeted at WF regulars obviously. Anyone ask him about it at aff sum? I say he was lauging telling people in the know how much he's gonna rape the n00bs.
And it's not targeted at WF regulars obviously. Anyone ask him about it at aff sum? I say he was lauging telling people in the know how much he's gonna rape the n00bs.
lols. I actually got a newsletter email from Chow saying that exclusive only for his subscribers, the system can be opened for 50 more people going to this site (shoemoney.ca) and entering the code JohnChow.. Funny enough you can enter any code and still get accepted..
Of course you can, but if you don't enter JohnChow then the teeth bandit won't get his cut.
when i was drunk at ASW and playing roulette, shoe came along. I yelled him for being a hypocrite. Because I remember how he talked with those FB dudes about how bad rebills are and he still promoted them (hell, now he even runs a 197/month rebill). Surprisingly the bald dude was cool about it, admitted it and talked about how much monies rebills make. So i dont give a shit. tbh shit like this just keeps the sheeple and noobs away from making real money.
I'd be more worried about all those t202 meetups.
I'd be more worried about all those t202 meetups.
I give you props for being like that in person. Most people I meet in person apologize for shit they said in the past (most of the time I have no clue who they are or what they said).
Like you said you were shitfaced but I was actually really into talking to you about it more. Its very rare someone criticizes me in public and when they do I actually really enjoy talking to them and finding out whats up. If you remember I asked you a bunch of questions about the context of it cause i forgot about it myself.
You made a really good point and I conceded you were correct. In that case I was being a hypocrite.
I think I have changed my mind on a lot of things... mostly out of ignorance.
I never sold advertising on shoemoney.com before 2007 and thought it was really cheezy... now the site looks like a nascar.
I always thought email "newsletters" were dumb and a waste of time. Now everytime I send a email its like going to the ATM.
I was really stupid about a lot of things in the past and I am sure I will change my tune on more stuff in the future as I learn also.
For the people reading this thread do you really think I have intentions of limiting it to 500 people?
I have a new monster on my hands. I want to make sure we have support and scalability down pat. I also want to listen from feedback from current members and change things if necessary. We will allow more people in the future and slowly expand.
Keep on Banking Shoe.
Thanks for Chiming in Shoe.
Your post reminds of something I once read:
I enjoy watching you work and look forward to meeting up with you one day
to just Blather for a bit.
Ok, my mouth is sore and I have a kink my neck from the Fluffing I just gave you. lol
As for you other jealous, hating bastards, start earning and maybe I'll Fluff you too!!
Lulz
Thanks for Chiming in Shoe.
Your post reminds of something I once read:
I enjoy watching you work and look forward to meeting up with you one day
to just Blather for a bit.
Ok, my mouth is sore and I have a kink my neck from the Fluffing I just gave you. lol
As for you other jealous, hating bastards, start earning and maybe I'll Fluff you too!!
Lulz
I give you props for standing up to it. <3 I think I managed to make you remember about what I was reffering myself to and like I said, surprisngly you admitted it (I wasnt too drunk tho, I guess it was like 7-8pm haha).
I was surprised to see you sober tho, lol. Thanks to the jetlag i was constantly getting buzzed at early hours... thank god neither one of us is into real ufc fighting
