Researchers publish Snapchat code allowing phone number matching after exploit disclosures ignored | ZDNet
Full documentation: Snapchat - GSFD
Shoulda took that $3 Billion...
Snapchat Hack - Bulk Match Phone Numbers, Real Names & More
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Researchers publish Snapchat code allowing phone number matching after exploit disclosures ignored | ZDNet
Full documentation: Snapchat - GSFD
Shoulda took that $3 Billion...
You do realize there are scripts that do the exact same thing for Facebook right?
The younger demo audience is fleeing from FB to Snapchat BECAUSE it's NOT associated with Facebook - cause their parents are on Facebook... If Snapchat sold to FB, the younger demo audience would have fled again... The whole point is they are trying to get away from their parents.
If it's about security, then FB is more vulnerable since it "does a lot more" since has more than "phone number" matching, most people's complete life and demograhic information is on FB - http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/177990-heres-hypothetical-hack.html
People should honestly feel safer on Snapchat versus Facebook at the moment.
If it's about security, then FB is more vulnerable since it "does a lot more" since has more than "phone number" matching, most people's complete life and demograhic information is on FB - http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/177990-heres-hypothetical-hack.html
People should honestly feel safer on Snapchat versus Facebook at the moment.
I guess, but then again Snapchat has no real product differentiators to justify turning down that kind of money. It's the new hotness, but when you really break it down it's nothing more than a completely non-secure photo sharing app.
The reason it got popular in the first place was because it provided a way for teens to anonymously sext each other with the comfort of knowing their titty/dick pics (no, not everyone uses it to send dick pics but let's be honest about how it got popular) would vanish in 10 seconds and that their use of the app would be anonymous. None of those things is true anymore so if I'm an investor in Snapchat I've got to be wondering what would keep the younger demographic using my app and how in the fuck do I plan on monetizing the userbase to make more than the $3 billion I could have gotten.
Seems a bit irresponsible not to fix these exploits 4 months ago when they were first told about them too. That may or may not open them up to legal issues as well if/when somebody takes the stalking exploit a little too far. Just sayin - $3 billion to not have to worry about this shit seems like a good deal but I've been wrong before.
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I completely agree. No one is stating they are the smartest people in the room at the moment, and by their actions, clearly they aren't.
People can get sued for anything, but going to the $3 Billion as a way out route, is kind of like giving up your first born, amirite? These guys came up with a highly popular APP - first major hit, how likely are you to give it up.
It's a communication channel first and foremost. Look at how twitter evolved and eventually got ads into their system. For a long time it was in the same scenario as Snapchat currently is. So is Tumblr, still waiting for the monetization of that to come.
Again, going back to the FB buyout situation, IF they sold to Facebook their demo would have immediately left. So there is absolutely no benefit for them to sell except to die a quickly death.
It's a communication channel first and foremost. Look at how twitter evolved and eventually got ads into their system. For a long time it was in the same scenario as Snapchat currently is. So is Tumblr, still waiting for the monetization of that to come.
Again, going back to the FB buyout situation, IF they sold to Facebook their demo would have immediately left. So there is absolutely no benefit for them to sell except to die a quickly death.
I actually talk about potential Snapchat monetization ideas in the last thread we had about this:
Except you're not "giving it up", you're selling it for $3 billion dollars which you can then use to:
A) Fund a thousand new great ideas
B) Snort coke off of 19 year old strippers asses for the rest of your life
C) Buy a small island nation
D) All of the above
Or E) None of the above but you can be the proud owners of a photo sharing app. I dunno, I'd love to see them be able to make more than $3 billion off that shit but it's not going to happen. You keep comparing it to Twitter and Facebook, but it's not even in the same ballpark. Shit, it ain't even the same fucking game.
A) What if this is their big and greatest idea. You are assuming they can strike lightening twice.
B) Why would you need a $3 Billion to do that to 19 yr old stripper... You can literally do that with any amount of money...
C) Maybe they don't want an island.
The CEO already has money, so to offer him more money doesn't make sense. He already doesn't have to work for the rest of his life. He's in it for a lot more.
You are putting yourself in his shoes, versus understanding where he is at in his life. You would have sold for $3 Billion, YOU - He's not YOU. People are brought up differently, and have different goals in life. He's in a different position then you. I know what I would have done with that offer, but that's me, and from this conversation we clearly would have done the opposite from each other.
At the end who's right? Facebook can flop in 3 years like Myspace, then who would be the winner? It's all about the moment...
B) Why would you need a $3 Billion to do that to 19 yr old stripper... You can literally do that with any amount of money...
C) Maybe they don't want an island.
The CEO already has money, so to offer him more money doesn't make sense. He already doesn't have to work for the rest of his life. He's in it for a lot more.
You are putting yourself in his shoes, versus understanding where he is at in his life. You would have sold for $3 Billion, YOU - He's not YOU. People are brought up differently, and have different goals in life. He's in a different position then you. I know what I would have done with that offer, but that's me, and from this conversation we clearly would have done the opposite from each other.
At the end who's right? Facebook can flop in 3 years like Myspace, then who would be the winner? It's all about the moment...
Actually it's a communication channel like Twitter and Facebook, so it's the same game and it's Snapchat's turn up to bat. You communicate with people you are friends/followers of. That's why Facebook and twitter exist, if you take away communicating with people you are friends/followers of, those two platforms don't exist.
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Still waiting to hear what their product differentiators are. Still waiting to hear why teens would continue using Snapchat vs some other new app that comes along and does the same thing but better (real privacy, not fully exploited or just the next new hotness when this shit gets old in a few months). And we don't even have to get into monetizaton, I'll just assume the founder is some rich kid that doesn't care about money. In business, it's all about castles and moats, right? Can you apply that to Snapchat?
Don't get me wrong - I like your long winded, vaguely written, hyped-filled posts as much as anybody, but if you're going to engage me in a debate on something I'm gonna have to call you out on it.
how the fuck is this an 'exploit'?! wow, so you bulk match numbers and you can get their snapchat usernames, not exactly world shattering. i don't know this got so much press.
No point in continuing, you'll just continue ignoring my replies.
You asked for possible monetization opportunities - I gave them. There is no hype. I even highlighted it in different colors - I already knew where this was heading, that's why I highlighted them. I directly answering the question and now you are simply re-asking the same question.
You asked for possible monetization opportunities - I gave them. There is no hype. I even highlighted it in different colors - I already knew where this was heading, that's why I highlighted them. I directly answering the question and now you are simply re-asking the same question.
Usually the first sign someone has started to lose a debate, is they start personal attacks. I thought we were having an intelligent debate, but by not replying to my responses, then starting down the path of a personal attack, clearly intelligence is started to go out the window with this thread.
I bid you adieu. Cheerio, ol' chap.
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I bid you adieu. Cheerio, ol' chap.
Relevant:
Um...
I know you're a smart guy, so you must just be ignoring the questions I'm asking. Simple business 101 things like:
Well?
Well?
Well?
And you won't get any insults from me, I respect the shit out of you as a marketer. But you seemed to take issue with my original post so I'm putting the ball back in your court to explain why anything I said was incorrect. I get it, you like Snapchat, there's nothign wrong with that. You even see potential for it to be monetized, fair enough. But I asked you some very simple business questions that you're ignoring. You're under no obligation to answer them of course, but I think if you think them through you might view things a little differently.
Carry on...
I answered every question/comment up till the "long winded, vaguely written" post, when you started the personal attack...