So i got this message...

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pjleonhardt

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I got this message today...:

phish.GIF


Not only does the link go to http://3261504708/index.php (Some people actually try to make it look like paypal.. like http://p.aypal.com/....)

The return adress says service@wachovia.com!!!

Talk about a horrible spammer. Not that it wont get a ton of people to fall for it, though the website is down.
 


Jan said:
So, is there a way to easily tell the real PayPal e-mail from the frauds?? Do you just have to check out each one?

My first response was "if it goes to https://<legitimate_site>.com, then it's probably real...although, now that I think about it, I think I've seen a progam that fakes the address bar..."

So I go to Google to learn about fake address bars, and now I'm actually worried:

A hijacked address bar.
Up to this point, the phishing exploit has been identical to hundreds of older scams that have plagued the Internet for months. The new wrinkle — and the most frightening aspect — is that the address bar of your browser says you're on a page of the financial institution's site. The actual Web address is invisible, because the phisher's site has run code that replaced your browser's real address bar with a fake one.

http://www.windowssecrets.com/comp/040506/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3608943.stm
http://www.contentverification.com/graphic-attacks/demo/index.html
 
Yep, good riddance.
Anyone asking you for your account details/PW, etc.. via email is deleted AT ONCE!

On a side note:
We thought we were being victims of "social hacking" when someone called us to talk about our experiences with the new e-banking.
Turns out the banks in Switzerland do this kind of thing. Just customer service. No wonder we freaked out.

::emp::
 
These PayPal scams are pretty common.

Real mails from PayPal are easy to identify. AFAIK they always start with "Dear Your Name, "

The fake ones use stuff like "Dear PayPal user" or "Dear PayPal member" because they don't know your name.
 
I have found that Gmail labels such emails as a possible phising.
Also I use Opera and it is pretty good in letting me know of these dodgy sites.

Jan said:
So, is there a way to easily tell the real PayPal e-mail from the frauds?? Do you just have to check out each one?
 
I've received loads of mails like this. Report them to the service provider so they can take action.
 
Just curious, do the people who do the paypal and ebay stuff (Those two scams are seen the most), do they make a lot of money?

What about the endless streams of viagra emails? When I used to use ICQ, damn, all I got was stuff like viagra or work at home stuff as well. I remember reading that Jon actually was able to make one of the first ICQ bots? I think I read it here, not sure.
 
I delete all emails and go straight to the site to login - safest bet. Some of them look pretty real at quick glance. The latest ones I have been getting are people telling me I stole their ebay auctions or that my order has shipped.

Delete, delete, delete.
 
Never log onto any site from an unexpected email.
Someone's even doing a local credit union near me. Amazing.
I always like the emails from credit card companies I don't have cards with.
 
claudek said:
I have found that Gmail labels such emails as a possible phising.
Also I use Opera and it is pretty good in letting me know of these dodgy sites.

Gmail does not automatically label things as phising scams though. A user has to report the message to google (which I did), and then a warning will show up to all other users who receive the exact same message. So, you have to get unlucky enough to hit a user who a) can identify it as a scam, b) knows that there is the option to report it, and c) gives enough of a damn to actually report it.
I do like the feature though. I just think that they should scan the headers for obvious things like if the return address is service@wachovia.com and the originating message is from an account at bellsouth... and automatically mark it as possible phishing.
 
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