Ted Kennedy is Dead.

LotsOfZeros said:
Let's not overdo it
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I'm not. The Kennedy's have been apart of very key historical aspects of the American landscape for the majority of the last century. This was the last one of that generation. Anybody with any sense of national pride should respect that.
 


Mikesev said:
A warped sense of intent regarding the partition, it was true by definition that the north was Unionist. It doesn't make any less legitimate as an entity or diminish its right to self-determination.

Similarly what you say about the referendum, your country went to war with itself over the result. How exactly would a united country have been created in those circumstances?

But we're digressing from the main point, which is that Ted Kennedy campaigned on behalf of, and gave legitimacy to a group that orchestrated murder and destruction and as a result perhaps even prolonged and intensified the conflict.
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The north of Ireland is not Unionist, Nationalists hold a majority in Ulster, which would be considered the 'northern' part of the country.

The country did not go to war with each other, two factions of the IRA and IRB split, they both had the same ideals and aims, just a different way of doing it, if as a result the Anti-Treaty side forced British troops out of Ireland, the pro side would have been forced to come into line by their supporters, and visa versa.

Do the British army not do the same thing? As LazyHippy said, one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter, I believe that the IRA have always had a legimate purpose and that is to remove British rule from my country.

You are correct however, we are digressing from the point at hand, Ted Kennedy was a good man, RIP.
 
I was watching this video about Edward and he says "eat shit" at 1:29

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IDN4b58pTU]YouTube - TED KENNEDY: Historic Speech @ Denver Convention[/ame]
 
Maitiú said:
The north of Ireland is not Unionist, Nationalists hold a majority in Ulster, which would be considered the 'northern' part of the country.

The country did not go to war with each other, two factions of the IRA and IRB split, they both had the same ideals and aims, just a different way of doing it, if as a result the Anti-Treaty side forced British troops out of Ireland, the pro side would have been forced to come into line by their supporters, and visa versa.

Do the British army not do the same thing? As LazyHippy said, one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter, I believe that the IRA have always had a legimate purpose and that is to remove British rule from my country.

You are correct however, we are digressing from the point at hand, Ted Kennedy was a good man, RIP.
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So tell me, what makes the IRA legitimate and the Loyalist groups not?
 
I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney, than driving with Ted Kennedy.

Hopefully I can start wearing the tshirt that has that written on it again shortly without anyone giving me shit for it again.. stupid TSA people..
 
Mikesev said:
So tell me, what makes the IRA legitimate and the Loyalist groups not?
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Loyalists deal drugs, kill innocent people because of their religion and are generally unsavory characters with very little to offer society.

The only reason they exist is because the British want them to, they have and always been an extension of the Dirty war Britain fought in Ireland.

Collusion is no illusion, its state murder.
 
Maitiú said:
Loyalists deal drugs, kill innocent people because of their religion and are generally unsavory characters with very little to offer society.

The only reason they exist is because the British want them to, they have and always been an extension of the Dirty war Britain fought in Ireland.

Collusion is no illusion, its state murder.
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Ok this is tedious. Everything you've described there can be reversed, as I'm sure you know.
 
Mikesev said:
Ok this is tedious. Everything you've described there can be reversed, as I'm sure you know.
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No, it really can't.

PIRA never dealt drugs, no matter what your politicians tell you.
PIRA never killed someone based on religion, the UVF killed over 300 people simply because they were catholics, most were not even supporters of the IRA.
Loyalist had people like the Shankill Butchers in their ranks, pyschopathic murderers. When was the last time a republican went around Loyalist communities carving random people up with butcher knifes?
What about the pogrom of Bombay street, when was the last time Republicans burnt innocent people out of their homes, and marched triumphantly around them?

I could go back 800 years into the raping of Ireland by British hands, but I won't embarrass you anymore than I already have.

I'm done, take the British tinted glasses off next time!
 
Ted Kennedy was a huge open borders advocate and helped spearhead the push for amnesty for our invading hordes from the south. :repuke:
 
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