Right, so you're basically arguing that it is impossible to keep secrets.
This is the, Bush wouldn't have been able to keep 9/11 as an inside job secret, but somehow he managed to fool the world about WMDs in Iraq, theory.
The Alternative and Complementary Medicine Thread - 100% BS?
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This is the, Bush wouldn't have been able to keep 9/11 as an inside job secret, but somehow he managed to fool the world about WMDs in Iraq, theory.
Nope, I'm not saying that it's impossible to keep secrets in general, I'm simply saying that it's impossible to keep secrets about things like a cure for cancer.
Let me ask you one question: if a cancer cure actually exists but is somehow hidden from the masses, why do lots of extremely wealthy and/or influential individuals (billionaires, presidents and so on - in other words, people who would normally have access to a cure that's not available to the masses) still die of cancer?
Can you please mention one cancer cure that has been proven to work better than anything conventional medicine can offer (surgery, chemo, radiation, ER+ drugs and so on)?
Most of the folks who recommend alternative cancer cures can only put anecdotal stories on the table, in other words something like "I heard it worked for my friend's mechanic" as opposed to clinical trials. When asked about clinical trials, their answer seems to always be "they're working on it" and quite frankly, I never found ONE serious clinical trial which proves that an alternative cancer therapy can beat conventional medicine.
Quoting this because Nassim Taleb is a super smart dude and people should watch this.
If you want drugs or surgery, conventional medicine is the go.
It's not perfect though, my biggest issue with conventional medicine is that doctors are in such a hurry to get you out of their office and bill you that you don't really get the kind of care you need sometimes.
For that reason, if I've got a sore knee, I'll go see an osteopath or a massage therapist first. I might see the doc to get some painkillers or anti-inflammatories but ongoing and one-to-one care is not really their thing.
It's not perfect though, my biggest issue with conventional medicine is that doctors are in such a hurry to get you out of their office and bill you that you don't really get the kind of care you need sometimes.
For that reason, if I've got a sore knee, I'll go see an osteopath or a massage therapist first. I might see the doc to get some painkillers or anti-inflammatories but ongoing and one-to-one care is not really their thing.
ALL medicine is subject to scrutiny. It bothers me when people are critical of mainstream medicine so they assume alternative medicine must be the answer to their problems.
The less intervention, the better IMO. I cannot trust doctors that are quick to prescribe drugs. We need to take accountability for our own health through diet and exercise. In the event that a serious condition hits us due to genetics or environmental factors, traditional medicine is the only sensible choice in a crisis.
Interesting stuff:
Mao's Barefoot Doctors: The Secret History of Chinese Medicine
The less intervention, the better IMO. I cannot trust doctors that are quick to prescribe drugs. We need to take accountability for our own health through diet and exercise. In the event that a serious condition hits us due to genetics or environmental factors, traditional medicine is the only sensible choice in a crisis.
Interesting stuff:
Mao's Barefoot Doctors: The Secret History of Chinese Medicine
I always try to let my body heal itself but when that doesn't work Chinese medicine works great for medium/small sicknesses. People should actually try it out before calling it bullshit. Yes it involves false theories and it doesn't always work (better to use real treatment for serious illnesses) but more than a billion people use it regularly. The bottom line is that it works. But be prepared, it tastes like shit.
But wasn't it found out eventually? And people have been trying to find a cure for a looooong time. TBH I just don't believe that people would take any amount of money over millions/billions of lives. Humans can't be that ruthless.
But wasn't it found out eventually? And people have been trying to find a cure for a looooong time. TBH I just don't believe that people would take any amount of money over millions/billions of lives. Humans can't be that ruthless.
It's pretty simple...the only reason it isn't is because you can't patent an herb and therefore you can't make any money.
Anyone questioning why "alternative medicine" never has any proof and trials is because no one puts any money towards it. Clinical trials cost a shitload of money. Why would anyone in their right mind (aside from government funded research /charities) do clinical trials on an herb that anyone can go sell? Makes no business sense and in the end that's what it's all about.
If you COULD patent an herb you can believe that you'd have a cure for everything within a short span of time. Just think of all the money that goes into researching synthetic drugs that suppress symptoms rather than treat the main cause.
The whole circle jerk works a little something like this:
The food industry shoves garbage down your throat, meat, dairy, fast food, hormones, antibiotics, sugars, additives, GMO crops, etc which all also contribute to pollution, environmental destruction and so on.
Result: People get sick, diseases, cancer, etc.
Then you go to the doctor and get a bunch of pills which suppress your symptoms and you keep feeling like shit while they make their money on their rebills. On the way there you stopped to fill up your tank full of gas so big oil can make some money too.
They come out with a little food pyramid and make diet recommendations for everyone - (think the milk in schools debate). The same people who influence these decisions also own the same companies who supply the "recommendations".
And round it goes.
Pharm doesn't want to cure you because they'd go out of business. Simple as that. Make the connection people.
Oh, and go vegan
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXsm3qaFIk]YouTube - What Is Integrative Medicine? - Andrew Weil, M.D.[/ame]
What is Integrative Medicine? - Andrew Weil, M.D.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeA84udy7hY]YouTube - Cancer is finally cured in Canada but Big Pharma has no interest, watch it 'till the end![/ame]
Experimental cancer drug resurfaces : Nature News
Potential cancer drug DCA tested in early trials « Cancer Research UK – Science Update
The title on the youtube video is misleading, but this should be a huge story. The research on DCA is funded by a relatively small amount of donations.
Billions are raised for cancer charities, but few to none are throwing money in this direction.
What is Integrative Medicine? - Andrew Weil, M.D.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeA84udy7hY]YouTube - Cancer is finally cured in Canada but Big Pharma has no interest, watch it 'till the end![/ame]
Experimental cancer drug resurfaces : Nature News
Potential cancer drug DCA tested in early trials « Cancer Research UK – Science Update
The title on the youtube video is misleading, but this should be a huge story. The research on DCA is funded by a relatively small amount of donations.
Billions are raised for cancer charities, but few to none are throwing money in this direction.
A good friend of mine was working at wal-mart as a stocker when a 100lb or so BBQ grill fell on his head. It crushed several vertabre and damaged his spine, from that point on he had a very hard time walking and had to take heavy-duty painkillers every day for several years.
Eventually my family convinced him to try a chiropractor after countless MRIs , XRays and similar. After ONE TREATMENT at the chiro , he had a severe reduction in pain , and over time became completely normal.
He had done everything modern science had to offer, yet a chiropractor is what fixed the problem....
Most major charities are looking out for the interests of those on the board and no one else. ACS makes a ton of money and less than 20% of it is spent on research.
Actually, there have been double-blind clinical trials, and, generally, they've come out as being no more effective than a placebo.
Because whoever cured cancer wouldn't make trillions out of it
The thing is with looking at just one case you have no way of knowing what it was that cured him. You really should understand that just because b follows a doesn't mean a caused b.
I thought we all knew about there being no wmd's, some well kept secret... Two totally different things.
The truth ^
Because whoever cured cancer wouldn't make trillions out of it
Not if the cure is DCA. Watch the video I put above.
you are correct.
I gave my mom DCA and B17 ( both cancer cures alternatives ) and she is in remission after years of chemo. Many of these products are used all over the world, except here. Knowing what I know about the us gov i wouldnt be surprised pharma companies lobby for this shit to remain "dangerous" and protect us all... ( see weed use as well )
Why?
Do they? How would you know if a secret was being secretly used?
Not all humans. Just the sociopaths that we allow to rule us and regulate our lives.
#Winner
Processed Foods & 'Some' Prescription Medicines & Lazy Couch Potato's = Sick People = Happy Food Companies & Happy Pharma Companies & Happy Doctors Offices & Happy Hospitals Etc$$$$$$$
So many ills are curable or controllable through lifestyle changes it's sicking. But everyone wants to take a "Pharma Pill" because their medical doctor who was taught at a university where the Phara Companies and AMA influence what is taught told them that is what they need. LOL
Wrong - Traditional Western Medicine has it's place especially in life threatening situations. But for many diseases and medical conditions life style changes and alternative medicine may be a better choice. Everyone is different, see what works for you.
Heres one
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/126685-cure-hiv-cancer.html
I believe the issue with clinical trials was addressed by Mortal. Pharmaceutical companies will prevent a cure rather than fund clinical trials for this.