The hardest language to learn is..

What about Czech?
i can understand most of czech but i wouldnt say im speaking it.
czech has less tenses than polish.

and its very funny to pepople speakign polish because many normal words in czech are curses in polish ie.

pl: to seek = szukac in cz it means: to fuck
cz: firelighter - zarzygałka in pl means: to puke

hard to explain many other things but mainly czech sounds reall funny for other slavic languages
 


None, depending on your situation. If you're thrown into a Chinese city, your learning cuff for the language would increase substantially due to survival mechanisms.

On the other hand, if you're using ROSETTA stones CDS, goodluck on that one.
 
I know a few people who are fluent in the Polish language. Seems confusing though. I'm fluent in German, but my families from Bremen. I guess if you're from somewhere it's not so bad. I heard the two most complex languages though were Russian and Chinese
 
Are they taking literacy into account? It would probably be harder to be literate in japanese of chinese or even arabic than polish I would think.
 
Are they taking literacy into account? It would probably be harder to be literate in japanese of chinese or even arabic than polish I would think.

writign in japenese and chinesse is propably superb hard but this was mostly [as i understand] aobut leanrign to speak properly with right tenses
i have a friend who married japense guy, they live in japan from liek 10 years - she speaks fluently but cant write at all
 
I can understand all ex yugoslavian languages, bulgarian, pretty fluent in english and it's a fact that once you get a grasp of one of these eastern european languages the rest are easy to comprehend.
 
Chinese and other tonal languages such as Thai are either very easy to learn to speak or very hard as they are tonal languages which mean you need to memorize if the word is rising, falling, high, mid, low tone as well as the general sound. I find it completely unneeded and complicated as far as languages go and have no clue how they came about. Thai for example is almost baby talk when directly translated to english. No past, present, future tense, no plurals etc. Somethings isn't good, better, best but just directly translated good, good good.

I have this idea that language creates culture or maybe it is the other way around. If that is the case, then tonal languages fit well in cultures obsessed with style over substance such as Thai and Chinese. Or maybe I'm just pissed cause I can't seem to learn the damn tones, but really, are they necessary? What good comes from tonal speaking?

Japanese is therefore easier if you're partially tonedeaf like me. I've been told there are some difficulties such as putting the very to the very end of the sentence, but that is the same as in german.

It does piss me off that I find Thai so difficult, but also that it is such a feminine language where as Japanese comes much easier with the little I have studied.

I doubt I will attempt to really learn Thai. I think its past not making an effort at this point. Chinese could be useful and I've been told the tones are easier to get in chinese.

To add a third/fourth language, I think Spanish would be a more practical language.
 
I thought Arabic would be the hardest, mainly because of the letters in Arabic are physically impossible to pronounce for the average Westerner. (I guess Herbrew also has some of those deadly letters)
 
Or maybe I'm just pissed cause I can't seem to learn the damn tones, but really, are they necessary? What good comes from tonal speaking?

At first I tried to learn the tones, then after a while simply stopped bothering with them altogether. It honestly doesn't seem to matter a whole lot. As long as you're not talking to an elderly person, and are speaking in sentences, the vast majority of people will understand what you're saying based on context.

By no means am I fluent, but if a neighbor comes by for a beer, we can sit around and bullshit in Thai no problem. Can be a little choppy at times, but we manage to get by just fine, and get our points across.

I still have lots to learn though, and should really start again. Once I taught myself enough to get around and do whatever I need, I stopped teaching myself. Should really get going on that again.

Aside from tones, pronunciation is my weak point. There's several sounds that don't exist in English, which I just can't get. Like words that start with a "ng" sound, or that "dt" consonant (this guy --> ), and others. Always think I'm saying them exactly the same as I'm hearing them, but obviously not.
 
Or maybe I'm just pissed cause I can't seem to learn the damn tones, but really, are they necessary? What good comes from tonal speaking?

I've felt the same way about wind for a while now. ;)


You're correct about remembering tones as words may have a different meaning or not mean anything if it's wrong. Mandarin is the most forgiving of these languages though I feel since it's only 3 (or 4 if you include neutral/straight) tones.

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