The VERY beginning of time? Wrapping my head around it....

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First off, let's leave religion out of this (ya, I know, unrealistic request).

Something that I've always wondered about, even as a young child (I remember being just 4-5 years old and wondering about this), is the VERY beginning of time. How did it all get started?

Now, many will say the "big bang". Okay, well where did the material/atoms/matter that created the big bang come from? Did it materialize out of thin air? It had to come from somewhere, right? And how does something come from nothing?

Just thinking about this makes my head hurt....

Of course the "answer" is always going to be a theory, no one was there. But, if anyone has some informative links they'd like to share, I'd love to read.
 


It's one of those things you don't really question OR assume it JUST IS. Like why do dogs bark, and why Japanese girls have pointy nipples.
 
There was a very good series on BBC1 a few months back with Professor Brian Cox called Wonders of The Universe. It didn't answer your question, but it was certainly very good and made you look at what is currently known in awe.

Here is Episode 1, section 1. This uploader has the whole series ripped to YouTube. Watch it, it's superb.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5__SwNcqF8]YouTube - Wonders of the Universe - Destiny 1/4[/ame]
 
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-God- said:
There was a very good series on BBC1 a few months back with Professor Brian Cox called Wonders of The Universe. It didn't answer your question, but it was certainly very good and made you look at what is currently known in awe.

Here is Episode 1, section 1. This uploader has the whole series ripped to YouTube. Watch it, it's superb.

YouTube - Wonders of the Universe - Destiny 1/4
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The one he did previous to that was very good as well, 'Wonders of the Solar System'.
 
EricVonDoobie said:
There was no beginning. It always has been and always will be.
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This.

A possible hypothesis is "The Big Bounce", which is basically a Big Crunch followed by a Big Bang, followed by a Big Crunch etc. Basically cyclical infinity.

By definition the universe is infinite (i.e. anything outside the universe is still part of a universe, meaning everything), so I am not sure if people have an easy time grasping this why they can't accept infinite time.
 
It is hard to grasp the infinite nature of time when the human observer moves linearly in that mode. To them, there must be a beginning and end since the only time we can conceive is that which can be measured by the events occurring between instances.

Can our brains feel and understand time as it is, at all points in existence, as it encompasses all that is? We shall see.
 
The universe began when the command was run to start the simulation. The simulation could have started with a universe already existing, or it could have started with the "Big Bang".
 
BluuueJammm said:
The one he did previous to that was very good as well, 'Wonders of the Solar System'.
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I missed that and tried to Sky+ it when it was repeated the other week. My Sky box decided to be a cunt at that moment and failed to record al but about 15 minutes of one episode. I'll buy the DVD when I can be arsed!
 
as an astrophysicist myself it will be a long time before everything in the universe is explained but through collective knowledge over the centuries before and the centuries to come lot more will be known through experiments, But the question of what happened before the big bang or before the possibility that our universe is just one of a multiverse, is a question that defies our current capabilities of thinking, every person is to stupid for that way of thinking. but the answer is not god.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf1EhA5mZvg]YouTube - Stephen Hawking tells Larry King - Theology Is Unnecessary To Explain Creation of the Universe[/ame]
 
FromUndaCheese said:
YouTube - Stephen Hawking tells Larry King - Theology Is Unnecessary To Explain Creation of the Universe
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Little do you know Stephen Hawking has been a complete vegetable for years now and is being kept on life support and controlled by the government.

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^ Obama inserting SD card with updated BIOS and new instructions

Iz a real conspiracy guys!
 
-God- said:
I missed that and tried to Sky+ it when it was repeated the other week. My Sky box decided to be a cunt at that moment and failed to record al but about 15 minutes of one episode. I'll buy the DVD when I can be arsed!
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You can get it on torrent as well, top quality. I enjoyed it more than the 'Universe' series, more was packed in to it.
 
It is not a mystery to think of time being a dimension we live in.

The dimensions we live in could have been created from someone/something in an existence that has more dimensions than we understand.

It is difficult to conceive of an existence with more dimensions than our own but it is easy to conceive of an existence with less. For example, it is easy to contemplate a 2-dimensional existence.

In other words, the answer may lie in a dimensional existence greater than our own, one that we cannot conceive.
 
I've been liking the "multi-verse" theory lately, where you have adjoining universes with empty space between and travel between parallel universes is possible. This actually seems possible when you think about it. Within our own universe we have existing galaxies that can be traveled too and from, so why wouldn't our universe just be another universe in a infinite number of multiple universes?
 
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