The "will I make $6k a day if I use your SEO services" clients...

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HarveyJ said:
I don't do all that much for other people, but when I do, I usually have a consult with them first. Sit down with them at a computer, look at their site, the code in it, how they're currently performing, etc.
It's free if they don't take me on, but I pad it into the bill later if they do. Helps me figure out

I had one guy that had bought a site and was wondering why it wasn't ranking.
"I keep adding keywords to it, and adding size text at the bottom so it has more keywords in its cloud!"...
*facepalm*
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That is the smarter way to go.
However, the issue we're dealing with here is the case of newbies who ask us something like why we charge $200 per hour while they could get the same thing for $15 per hour from someone other SEO dude.
 


yes you will make 6k/day if you use my SEO services. first, just read this ebook -- i'll sell it to you on a 6k daily rebill.
 
DumDum said:
Oh yeah, and I forgot to add:

He also mentioned that building a blog network with 1000 blogs ain't that tough and shouldn't cost so much. He said I was being unreasonable with my pricing because:

SEO IS NOT TOUGH, IT IS JUST BORING!


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I didn't even bother clearing out this with him. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have understood.

SEO requires experience and loads of skill. Basic link building and monkey work is easy but when it comes to REAL, ADVANCED SEO, it is not only difficult but also strenuous on your mind because it involves developing the best strategy to achieve your goals. It is far more complicated than it looks!!!

So guys, everytime you get a client like that being so unreasonable, just point them to this thread to make them realize that they're being asses.
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Uh no, SEO is not hard. He was absolutely right about that. A braindead monkey could do SEO. It is NOT complicated. There is no "advanced seo". Really, there isn't. Yes its fucking boring, and thats the only hard part about it.
 
1000 autoblogs? About 1 week, or 2 if you want them hosted free. Posts per 2 days on average. Totally unique. Would I do it for anyone else? Course not. Too busy doing it for myself.
 
Webferret said:
1000 autoblogs? About 1 week, or 2 if you want them hosted free. Posts per 2 days on average. Totally unique. Would I do it for anyone else? Course not. Too busy doing it for myself.
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nope, not autoblogs!!!
He wanted blogs to be manually created, unique manually written content, manual link building!!!
Can you beat that???!!!
 
nickycakes said:
Uh no, SEO is not hard. He was absolutely right about that. A braindead monkey could do SEO. It is NOT complicated. There is no "advanced seo". Really, there isn't. Yes its fucking boring, and thats the only hard part about it.
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You've lost your fucking mind _or_ you've only watched the game from the sidelines ... which is it?

Yes, Indian SEO a braindead monkey can do. Throw some meta tags in there, submit to a few seo-friendly directories, a few choppy engrish articles to some article directories and you're done.

Real seo is about strategy, tools and focus. Check out some of the shit bofu posts, it'll give you an aneurysm. Now imagine some of the shit he doesn't post ... mind blowing, eh?

Or just keep up with BHseo (link to the most recent post on advanced WH seo which I think is GH at best but w/e) ... Eli didn't make SEO hard, he just showed all you kiddies how deep the rabbit hole actually goes.

Speaking of advanced ... I'm ready for shady to stop paying to sling berries and get back to his organic roots. I've read some of the most enlightening shit on his blog.

... back to PPC for you pattycakes (which you're pretty good at so I hear). Your statement is a disgrace to "reformed blackhats" everywhere. Saying that it's easy & there is no advanced stuff is simply laughable!
 
erect said:
You've lost your fucking mind _or_ you've only watched the game from the sidelines ... which is it?
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Geekcognito thinks that Nickycakes must be so 733t that even the most advanced strategic SEO can be done by Nickycakes blindfolded.

Geekcognito is very impressed. Geekcognito so impressed Geekcognito may start talking like this all the time because he saw somewhere that it must be the cool thing to do.
 
DumDum said:
nope, not autoblogs!!!
He wanted blogs to be manually created, unique manually written content, manual link building!!!
Can you beat that???!!!
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manually written blogs??? Why??? WTF for???? Does he not know that modern autos r pretty much undetectable as not human written????
 
geekcognito said:
Geekcognito thinks that Nickycakes must be so 733t that even the most advanced strategic SEO can be done by Nickycakes blindfolded.

Geekcognito is very impressed. Geekcognito so impressed Geekcognito may start talking like this all the time because he saw somewhere that it must be the cool thing to do.
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LOL..!!
DumDum luvin it..
DumDum is going to start talking like this too. Even DumDum wants to be cool.

Regards,
DumDum
 
nickycakes said:
Uh no, SEO is not hard. He was absolutely right about that. A braindead monkey could do SEO. It is NOT complicated. There is no "advanced seo". Really, there isn't. Yes its fucking boring, and thats the only hard part about it.
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Yeah, I was just about to write the exact same thing.

SEO is probably one of the most boring things I know in IM industry. It involves only robot work and waiting. Of course if you enjoy both of those things, it might be your thing but it sure as hell isn't mine.
 
took me about 1 hour of work running the oldest linkspam trick in the book to rank on the first page of acai when it was first getting really big. i could do that shit all day long and make a killing but its fucking boring. SEO is easy. sorry.
 
Webferret said:
manually written blogs??? Why??? WTF for???? Does he not know that modern autos r pretty much undetectable as not human written????
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nickycakes said:
took me about 1 hour of work running the oldest linkspam trick in the book to rank on the first page of acai when it was first getting really big. i could do that shit all day long and make a killing but its fucking boring. SEO is easy. sorry.
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lol...


Noobs...
 
nickycakes said:
took me about 1 hour of work running the oldest linkspam trick in the book to rank on the first page of acai when it was first getting really big. i could do that shit all day long and make a killing but its fucking boring. SEO is easy. sorry.
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Try doing it now, and staying on the first page.

Or try ranking long term for credit cards, then come back and tell me it's a piece of cake ;-)
To each their own, nick..
 
nickycakes said:
how about instead of doing that i just do ppc and make 20x more money, do less work, have fun, and have it happen almost instantly?
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Ding Ding Ding Ding

Bob Barkercakes says we have a winner:

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I'm 98% certain I know the parties involved, and am unfortunately the guy who "Pays $1300/mo to hire SEO services and makes $2k/day".

I guess I should of mentioned to him I've been working on a SEO campaign for something like a month and a half now and have set up tons of SEO assets (Autoblogs, ect) to build my sites...Hiring a SEO firm was just a way of bringing in more quality links to my site & support sites.
 
After re-reading this thread a few more times, I guess this whole thing is MY fault as I really didn't explain to him how a good SEO campaign works , i was quite vague with the poor fella.

I know i'm pretty vague when it comes to building SEO stuff, but then i can't say anything that contempt.me or eli haven't said on their blogs. SEO is a time consuming , very profitable thing and you have to have a good grasp of on-page and off-page before you even start, and if you don't know how the 2 work towards rankings you're pretty much just throwing cash in the trash.
 
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