They're Both Drowning and You Can Save Only One -- Your Dog or a Stranger?

They're both drowning. Which one do you save?

  • Your Dog

    Votes: 148 60.9%
  • Stranger

    Votes: 95 39.1%

  • Total voters
    243
this is the type of thought that leads do suicide bombers...

The fact that himans can knowingly understand good and bad, and do good makes them superior to animals. Animals can not distinguish from right and wrong. They can be trained, but they still don't understand the concepts.

First of all, lol at the ridiculous suicide bomber comment. Second of all, you don't give animals nearly enough credit.

They can be trained, but they still don't understand the concepts.

You mean you don't have to train a human child to distinguish between right and wrong? You must have some amazing kids.
 


this is the type of thought that leads do suicide bombers...

The fact that himans can knowingly understand good and bad, and do good makes them superior to animals. Animals can not distinguish from right and wrong. They can be trained, but they still don't understand the concepts.

OK, so because humans know "right from wrong" or basically what we perceive to be right from wrong, our lives are worth more? Doesn't sound like a very strong argument.

Your logic amazes me. Actually the logic of 50% of the people here amazes me.


Again I ask: what makes a human life automatically more valuable than an animals life?
 
What makes a human life more valuable than an animals life? Both animals, just different types.

I think the same.

Ive tried to argue this many times over the years with people who think humans are above other life forms. You'll never change their opinions.
 
REALLY? You will see a man in the eyes and choose to let him die instead of your dog?

OBVIOUSLY you would save the man first and then your damn tail-wagging dog. If you have the balls to save your dog first I takes my hats off to you because you are the most unscrupulous dumbass ever. That's it. It's just logical. This is not a color preference type of thing. This is damn life.

And fuck you all that put the "that stranger could be a murderer, rapist or Obama" argument in place. That stranger you just let die, could also end up being a damn dog loving dude that would STILL save your daughter instead of his damn dog if she was drowning.

How's that for logic fuckers?
 
Why would I save a stranger over my dog? What, just because it's a human means the life is more valuable than my dog? Fuck that.
You might save your dog because you have a relationship with it, but you probably wouldn't save any dog over a strange human, we're hard wired to protect our own species.

You don't know shit about this human stranger, they could be a killer, child molester, or just an all around bad person.
It could also be someone's child or a baby. It could be a billionaire who will reward you or the person who discovers the cure for cancer.

You seriously going to look someone in the eye and tell them you didnt save their parent or child because your dog was drowning too?

I love animals, always had animals. Animals are a lot simpler than people are. But I would have a hard time choosing a short life spanned animal of limited intelligence and rational capacity over another human being, who I would hope would be capable of making that same decision should the situation be reversed.
 
But I would have a hard time choosing a short life spanned animal of limited intelligence and rational capacity over another human being, who I would hope would be capable of making that same decision should the situation be reversed.

Thank you, human being. btw DFB rules.
 
It could also be someone's child or a baby. It could be a billionaire who will reward you or the person who discovers the cure for cancer.


If it was a baby, I'd save the baby over a dog. What it really comes down to for me is the innocence. Dogs are innocent animals, most people are FAR from innocent and have done some really bad shit at some point in their life. A baby is pure and innocent, so yea I'd save a baby. But any other stranger would be straight up fucked if I had to make the choice between them and my beloved dog.
 
If a dog can't swim then it's probably some useless bread (eg.. your girlfriends dog.. or her). Save the stranger.
 
Obviously im far more bonded with the dog which would make me inclined not to give a fuck about the stranger and try and save the dog. I wouldnt be thinking about which life is more important.

But interesting topic definitely wasted 10 minutes thinking about a situation that will never occur. :)

But I agree if it was a random dog and a random human I wouldnt care about the dog.


Edit : Hmm now im really thinking this through and I conclude that I would probably be so torn over who to save that they would probably both drown.
 
The stranger.

I love dogs, but this is not even a question.

I'd also hate dealing with the legal repercussions for saving a dog while a human was drowning nearby.

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not surprised by the results.. lots of douchebags/assholes on WF


It's amazing to me that you think someone who chooses to save the animal they are with each and everyday over another animal that they know nothing of and have never seen before are "assholes/douchebags".

You spend each and everyday with this animal, you bond with it, it becomes part of your family. And at the drop of a dime you think people are supposed to just let their dog die for some stranger?

If it's part of your family then it's part of your family. A bond like that isn't broken at the drop of a dime just because some random human fell into the water.

The stranger.

I love dogs, but this is not even a question.

I'd also hate dealing with the legal repercussions for saving a dog while a human was drowning nearby.

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Pretty sure you can't get in trouble for such a thing. There are no laws that say you have to help someone that is drowning. Unless you put your boot on their head and pushed them down, how could you get in trouble? The local news may fuck with you or something, but legal trouble?
 
Wickedfire philosophy threads are almost as retarded as wickefire political threads.
 
It's amazing to me that you think someone who chooses to save the animal they are with each and everyday over another animal that they know nothing of and have never seen before are "assholes/douchebags".

You spend each and everyday with this animal, you bond with it, it becomes part of your family. And at the drop of a dime you think people are supposed to just let their dog die for some stranger?

If it's part of your family then it's part of your family. A bond like that isn't broken at the drop of a dime just because some random human fell into the water.



Pretty sure you can't get in trouble for such a thing. There are no laws that say you have to help someone that is drowning. Unless you put your boot on their head and pushed them down, how could you get in trouble? The local news may fuck with you or something, but legal trouble?

Don't know US laws on this. In Germany, we got this thing called "unterlassene Hilfeleistung" which basically means not helping when you could.

And yes, you can get into deep shit for that.

Duty to rescue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I don't give a shit.

Fuck all you people. I wouldn't even think of saving a stranger, but my dog? Hell yes. And if it were a choice between the two, I'd definitely choose the dog....even if it wasn't my dog. There are too many people in the world already. Losing one more wouldn't hurt. On the other hand, animals are going extinct all over the place. I hate people. The human race is doomed so long as they continue to believe that they're so much more important than all other life forms. I hope some aliens come wipe their sorry asses out. It would be preferable to letting this madness continue because people's attitudes are obviously NEVER going to change for the better. And yeah. I'm too fucking ashamed to group myself together with "humans." Disgusting species. Give me a dog any day.