This gave me more faith in Obama's presidency

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The problem is that Obama, by the US constitution's own rules for eligibilty for POTUS, Obama is ineligible unless 1. he can produce a bonafide birth certificate (NOT a certificate of live birth - a nonlegal document), and 2. can somehow prove he didn't give up his supposed US citizenship when he, by his own admission, attended public school in indonesia as a kid where dual citizenships are not allowed, and only indonesian citizens can attend public school.

And just for kicks and giggles, go download his 'certificate of live birth' off HIS website and then open it in any freely available hex-editor. It's very very clearly watermarked and timestamped by Adobe photoshop 9.0 (or at least it was, unless he's recently fixed this major fopaw). Forgery, anyone?

Sorry, but as much as McCain annoys the crap outta me, I can't vote for someone who is not even eligible, and is trying steal an election in the worst way. Go look it up. At last count, there are at least 3 major federal and state lawsuits against Obama already on record trying to get him to prove his eligibility (and he's not doing it).

What are we gonna do when he gets elected, and then Bush invalidates the entire election because of Obama's apparent fraud? What next? Democrats and Republicans alike need to be pushing this issue hard! Either get Obama off the ballot, or prove that he's even eligible (and don't vote for him unless he does)!

Sorry, my 2cents worth....
 


tim_benedict said:
The problem is that Obama, by the US constitution's own rules for eligibilty for POTUS, Obama is ineligible unless 1. he can produce a bonafide birth certificate (NOT a certificate of live birth - a nonlegal document), and 2. can somehow prove he didn't give up his supposed US citizenship when he, by his own admission, attended public school in indonesia as a kid where dual citizenships are not allowed, and only indonesian citizens can attend public school.

And just for kicks and giggles, go download his 'certificate of live birth' off HIS website and then open it in any freely available hex-editor. It's very very clearly watermarked and timestamped by Adobe photoshop 9.0 (or at least it was, unless he's recently fixed this major fopaw). Forgery, anyone?

Sorry, but as much as McCain annoys the crap outta me, I can't vote for someone who is not even eligible, and is trying steal an election in the worst way. Go look it up. At last count, there are at least 3 major federal and state lawsuits against Obama already on record trying to get him to prove his eligibility (and he's not doing it).

What are we gonna do when he gets elected, and then Bush invalidates the entire election because of Obama's apparent fraud? What next? Democrats and Republicans alike need to be pushing this issue hard! Either get Obama off the ballot, or prove that he's even eligible (and don't vote for him unless he does)!

Sorry, my 2cents worth....
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Yes, this is just one of many of the problems for Obama. If he is a citizen than PROVE IT. If he turns out to be an illegal alien then he needs to be shipped back to Kenya.
 
popeye said:
Why would she ask for a connection? It is a fact that the connection is there. It is a FACT that the Obama campaign paid approx. $800k to ACORN and for what? Get this: Stage and Lighting!
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Ok. First, I'd love to see a real source cited on the 800k. Oh yeah. Wait. It didn't even go into Acorn. It was a subsidiary that was used during the PRIMARY against Hillary Clinton (which did NOT have any fraudulent anything). There's been no contribution, even to the subsidiary, within(or used for) the General election.
And let's not forget McCain's praise of acorn not too long ago.

HOWEVER it seems you have a fundamentally "off" understanding of acorn. Acorn essentially is a voter registration affiliate program that was too fucking stupid to set up anti-fraud measures, and had amateur affiliates too incompetent to do it properly. So just like any offer in our business without anti-fraud measures...they got frauded. End of story. Not a conspiracy.
It is a FACT that obama was a member of the New Party a socialist organization and has socialist beliefs.
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Even neoconservatives don't say he was a member.
They say he sought an endorsement. The idea behind the "New Party" was that they would take a left leaning candidate that was NOT a member of the new party, and they would endorse him. He didn't have to follow their belief structure to get this; he simply had to be not conservative and have a chance at winning.

When even conservative pseudo-papers don't support your nutty assessment, it's perhaps time to re-examine how easily you accept "facts".
The FACTS are there.
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Unfortunately they just never support your position.
and to think Liberals believe themselves to be so superior in intelligence. How is this man taking them for such a ride???
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Yes, because you guys weren't suckered in by Bush...TWICE. Or are we supposed to forget that and pretend like the last repub in power was reagan?
 
popeye said:
6 months ago I was just worried that Obama was too inexperienced. Little did I know that the experience issue would be nothing in compare to his marxist beliefs. What I didn't realize at that time was that he IS a socialist, no doubt about it. YouTube - Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered

Our constitution and the integrity of our country is under attack. I just hope that changing the fundamental ideas of our country doesn't lead us to a civil war. Thankfully I live in a state where we value the constitution and everyone owns a gun.
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Obama is one smooth Man. Great find Popeye.
Im not sure but it sound like some of you are avoiding pretty critical points Obama made.
Heres a video about Obamas views about the white man.
YouTube - SHOCKING Obama words: what he really thinks of Joe the Plumber
 
snavr said:
If you know how to create wealth, Obama is your man ...

You pay a little more in taxes. And so do all your competitors (the other wealth creators). Obama puts it in the hands of the core consumers and gives you a chance to get some of your competitors money.

Obama a socialist? Fuck, it doesn't get more capitalist than that.
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haha that´s a pretty cool way to look at it :xmas-smiley-016:

Repubs are so scared to lose their money boo fucking hoo
 
This popeye guy is a real tool. He keeps calling Obama a socialist, but what he fails to realize is that BOTH Obama and McCain voted on one of the biggest solicialization bills in our time: bailing out Wall Street with $700B and NATIONALIZING failing banks. Even your fellow conservative ignoramuses couldn't defend that.

The funny thing is, when McCain was running against Bush in 2000, he had the same tax plan as Obama. Here is a YouTube video showing McCain talking about it:

YouTube - John McCain On Taxing Rich People

The John McCain maverick of that time is gone. He found out he could pander to fools like popeye and get their votes instead of giving out straight-talk.

Here is a quote from the video (for the lazy):

MCCAIN:
But I believe that when you really look at the tax code today, the
very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of
loopholes, really don’t pay nearly as much as you think they do when
you just look at the percentages. And I think middle-income Americans,
working Americans, when the account and payroll taxes, sales taxes,
mortgage pay — all of the taxes that working Americans pay, I think
they — you would think that they also deserve significant relief, in
my view…

....later in the interview

MCCAIN:
look, here’s what I really believe, that when you are — reach a
certain level of comfort, there’s nothing wrong with paying somewhat
more. But at the same time, that shouldn’t be totally out of
proportion. There’s some countries such as Sweden where it doesn’t pay
anything to work more than six months a year. That’s probably the
extreme. But I think the debate in this country is more about tax cuts rather
than anything else. And frankly, I think the first people who deserve
a tax cut are working Americans with children that need to educate
their children, and they’re the ones that I would support tax cuts for
first.



Popeye, lots of zeros, and Mccain = owned.
 
What I'm mainly worried about is McCain dying and Palin becoming president. He's a four-time cancer patient and he's 72 (average male lives to 75 in the US) + Palin already has her plans:

"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," this McCain adviser said. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.
"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom." Source

Basically, this is how I see the election:
Vote for McCain and you're signing the death warrant of thousands of innocent people in war zones. I don't see how people could vote for someone who believes the war is a mission from God and they'll be fighting for "as long as it takes".
 
tim_benedict said:
The problem is that Obama, by the US constitution's own rules for eligibilty for POTUS, Obama is ineligible unless 1. he can produce a bonafide birth certificate (NOT a certificate of live birth - a nonlegal document), and 2. can somehow prove he didn't give up his supposed US citizenship when he, by his own admission, attended public school in indonesia as a kid where dual citizenships are not allowed, and only indonesian citizens can attend public school.

And just for kicks and giggles, go download his 'certificate of live birth' off HIS website and then open it in any freely available hex-editor. It's very very clearly watermarked and timestamped by Adobe photoshop 9.0 (or at least it was, unless he's recently fixed this major fopaw). Forgery, anyone?

Sorry, but as much as McCain annoys the crap outta me, I can't vote for someone who is not even eligible, and is trying steal an election in the worst way. Go look it up. At last count, there are at least 3 major federal and state lawsuits against Obama already on record trying to get him to prove his eligibility (and he's not doing it).

What are we gonna do when he gets elected, and then Bush invalidates the entire election because of Obama's apparent fraud? What next? Democrats and Republicans alike need to be pushing this issue hard! Either get Obama off the ballot, or prove that he's even eligible (and don't vote for him unless he does)!

Sorry, my 2cents worth....
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What is required to have a passport(from Factcheck.org):
The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records."
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All of that is ON the certificate of live birth(available at the link). Plus they have the newspaper article where is birth was announced in Hawaii...
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<--newspaper announcement.

Plus in all honesty if I was in a similar position I would supply the birth cert to those who were required to have it by law, then tell everyone else to go fuck themselves. There's been far more documentation than is needed already.
 
Popeye rules!!

He has it correct. McCain should be the next President. Obama has no administrative experince, wants to take away the desire to succeed and benefit from your efforts and hard work, taxes given to those that choose not to work, does not care if women kill their babies, is a radical and will allow your sister to marry her girlfriend. Besides that he is a liar and a dodger of questions about his past associates.
 
oogie1947 said:
He has it correct. McCain should be the next President. Obama has no administrative experince, wants to take away the desire to succeed and benefit from your efforts and hard work, taxes given to those that choose not to work, does not care if women kill their babies, is a radical and will allow your sister to marry her girlfriend. Besides that he is a liar and a dodger of questions about his past associates.
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Yawn. Nothing like grasping at straws.
 
xmcp123 said:
What is required to have a passport(from Factcheck.org):
All of that is ON the certificate of live birth(available at the link). Plus they have the newspaper article where is birth was announced in Hawaii...
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<--newspaper announcement.

Plus in all honesty if I was in a similar position I would supply the birth cert to those who were required to have it by law, then tell everyone else to go fuck themselves. There's been far more documentation than is needed already.
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1) He traveled as a child on his Indonesian passport. He could have traveled recently on his diplomatic passport.

2) You do know a certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate?

Now that your "facts" have been debunked go ahead and attack me personally like the rest of the fuckin ignorant obamabots. The more you spout MSNBC talking points the more like a fuckin sheep you look.

Not that I am saying the marxist doesn't have a birth certificate but if he does he needs to present the original copy to the American public. He is asking us for a job and I want to make sure he is not an illegal alien.
 
Now that your "facts" have been debunked
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What facts did you debunk? He provided links supporting his argument and you provided nothing.

go ahead and attack me personally like the rest of the fuckin ignorant obamabots. The more you spout MSNBC talking points the more like a fuckin sheep you look.
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Your like a walking fucking advertisement for Fox news that attacks everyone that doesn't have the same views. Congratulations on making yourself look like an even bigger tool.
 
tweak50 said:
What facts did you debunk? He provided links supporting his argument and you provided nothing.



Your like a walking fucking advertisement for Fox news that attacks everyone that doesn't have the same views. Congratulations on making yourself look like an even bigger tool.
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Fox news does have a slight slant but it is far more reliable than the daily show and that dyke chick on MSNBC. I am going to take a quote from your hero Joe Biden "Are you joking?"

FACT: You, nor anyone else on this board knows what kind of passport Obama used to travel.

FACT: A certificate of live birth IS NOT A FUCKIN ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

BAAA..BAAAA
 
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