Actually, you're just talking to yourself now. I didn't read your last post and I doubt many people will.
Get friends.
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Actually, you're just talking to yourself now. I didn't read your last post and I doubt many people will.
Get friends.
I think you should read it.... it makes a thousand points that I made in this thread.
You're soooo naive. It's cute now.
Have a nice day!
We have determined here (yes we, because there are many supporters of this idea) that you have no ability to argue or bring up relevant facts.
You have admitted to being wrong SO many times it's hilarious.
So yeah, it's perfectly understandable why nobody here would put any merit in what you say. Keep talkin' to yourself.
There are more Islamic terrorists that exist in the world than Christian ones.... Holy shit, I knew this all along.
I'm saying it's naive to just leave it at that.... it leads to discrimination and prejudice.
Like thinking Islam is more dangerous than Christianity even though it is barely the case. They are both at least 99% peaceful.
Islam has 700% more violence that Christianity, but that is the most naive way of looking at it, if that's is all you think about.
So quit evading reality by pointing out petty things.(typos etc.)
Ok I read the article.
a) It's Bangor Daily News.
b) It's a journalist that admits that there is more Islamic terrorism, but says that the majority are still peaceful.
I NEVER SAID THE MAJORITY WASN'T PEACEFUL.
You find some shitty news article that once again, ISN'T RELEVANT TO THE ARGUMENT.
You said all religion was equally violent. I disagreed. That article above supports my argument.
You can't argue facts, only try to dodge them. And that's all you're doing, dodging the facts and making false assumptions about my personal beliefs. Such a lame argument.
This isn't about personal philosophy, once again. This isn't about discriminating against Muslims. This was about YOUR statement that I disagreed with.
a) It's Bangor Daily News.
b) It's a journalist that admits that there is more Islamic terrorism, but says that the majority are still peaceful.
I NEVER SAID THE MAJORITY WASN'T PEACEFUL.
You find some shitty news article that once again, ISN'T RELEVANT TO THE ARGUMENT.
You said all religion was equally violent. I disagreed. That article above supports my argument.
You can't argue facts, only try to dodge them. And that's all you're doing, dodging the facts and making false assumptions about my personal beliefs. Such a lame argument.
This isn't about personal philosophy, once again. This isn't about discriminating against Muslims. This was about YOUR statement that I disagreed with.
You keep mentioning this. It doesn't matter in this argument. Plus 99% is a bullshit number that you came up with and have no facts to support it. I've just been tagging along with YOUR logic and facts.
It's not all I was thinking about. It's just facts I was using to prove you wrong.
This makes no sense. You're saying 700% more violence (and 12,000,000 more people) is petty? Haha.
Yeah, I'm done arguing with you. You're clearly in need of attention from people, my guess is you don't have any friends. Bug somebody else.
Point being.....? you're prejudiced again?
Good, the journalist, you and I all agree.
I think your original position is... that Islam is more dangerous than Christianity, right?
Shitty says who?
What argument? That there is more Islamic terrorists than Christian terrorists? I've ceded to this fact numerous times.
The argument is over Islam is more dangerous/violent than Christianity.
They are both 99% peaceful. Islam has more terrorists/violence/danger than Christianity(this is your point, no? <----) , but my point is...... this is a naive way of looking at it.
.....as supported by that article.
I know what the facts are.... you just want to leave them at face value for the convenience.
This is about discriminating against Muslims because you take the fact that [there are more Islamic terrorists/danger/violence than Christian ones] at face value and don't take it any further.
Taking this fact at face value has zero meaning(except that more Islamic terrorists exist in the world). It's just lazy thinking, convenient, and self-rewarding.
You just argued with yourself there, and lost.
That's a bullshit statistic. Cite sources.
It's quite clear that you don't. Your most used statistic is false.
Actually, you're leaving things at face value (you keep using a false statistic and are using it to generalize points that are not about the argument).
The face value would be "99% are peaceful". Looking deeper in, we are talking about a difference of 12,000,000 people.
:yawns:
Come on!
99.9% of Christians are peaceful and 99% of Muslims are peaceful. We agree.
There are more Islamic terrorists than Christian terrorists because of the enormity of the populations. This results in 700% more Islamic violence than Christian violence.
So we can both agree on the fact that Islam is more dangerous than Christianity.....but don't stop reading!....the point I'm trying to make is that this statement....
[Islam is more dangerous than Christianity because more Islamic terrorists exist in the world than do Christian terrorists by a factor of 700%] (something I constantly acknowledge)
.....is worthless at face value.
Please tell me what value that statement provides other than what it already explicitly states.
You can take it at face value, but it's worthless....besides what it explicitly states about the world [that more Muslim terrorists exist].
Other than that the statement completely ignores that the vast majority of each population is peaceful. Why choose to ignore these vast populations?
It's a worthless statement that leads to discrimination.
UnripeArbiter said:
Cool. You just contradicted your original statement. You lose.
Also stop using the 99% statistic until you can prove that it's true. We do NOT agree on it. I have simply been using that along with your logic, to show you why YOU have been foolish in your argument.
Once again, do not mention peace statistics until you can cite sources.
My original statement in this thread (which was the first in this thread period) was....
I meant who cares if Obama is Muslim it wouldn't matter; it's meaningless to me.
I said somewhere along the line that Islam is equally dangerous than Christianity (bolding so you won't stop reading) .... which I did.... I acknowledge early on that this isn't exactly the case.... (cites here dating back to the 13th)
I just want to make the point that instead of saying Islam is equally as dangerous than Christianity and instead say(like you do) Islam is more dangerous than Christianity will simply lead to discrimination and it's pointless and dangerous to point out this fact.
I'm trying to tell you that you're foolish in your argument.
You simply want to argue that Islam is more dangerous than Christianity, correct?
I simply want to argue that while this may be true, it's meaningless and leads to prejudice.
I don't know if 99% of Muslims are peaceful for a fact or not :goes and looks for evidence: but let's say even 80% of them are peaceful. We can safely say that and it's quite conservative.
If we say Islam is 80% peaceful and Christians are 99.9% peaceful everything I said here ^ still applies.
The majority would still be peaceful and we would be wise to instead of pointing to 100% of Islam and declaring it more dangerous than Christianity we should ally with the 80% and point to the other 20% and call them more dangerous; the actual people who are fucking it up for all of us.
You should be, instead of saying Islam is more dangerous than Christianity.
You should be saying all forms of religious (atheist...) extremism is dangerous. Christian and Islam alike.
To say Islam is more dangerous than Christianity is not only naive:
- It ignores the vast population of peaceful Muslims.
- It basically labels all of Islam as our enemy when we should be pointing to the 20%.
- and it leads to discrimination because at least 80% of the time you would be wrong in judging a Muslim as violent
It's worthless to say Islam is more dangerous than Christianity.
It has zero worth besides what it says at face value and at the minimum this statement will lead to discrimination.
You're so proudly arguing for a worthless declaration.
citation needed
read your argument?
i would, but i like to work. i don't have a free 6 hours to read all your pantie twisting drama.
im just saying "get Friends" is hilarious.
Cool, all I'm saying is you allied with the losing side, you didn't know it because you didn't read it. :thumbsup:
If you need citation to prove that Islamic terrorism is caused by Islam, well I don't even know. You may perhaps be the most stupid person I have ever encountered.