To Anybody That Thinks 9/11 was a Conspiracy



source if you have a chance - thx. not calling you on it, just interested. could not find supporting data with several G searches.

To be specific, they spent the 3rd most in 2010. Russia still probably has more total equipment and nuclear weapons of course.

List of countries by military expenditures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


France pleads for military intervention as Gaddafi forces attack Libyan rebels - The Washington Post

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOn3Ybu9Eg]French Fighters Attack Qaddafi's (Libyan) Forces: French President Sarkozy takes the lead! - YouTube[/ame]
 

Interesting - thanks.

Even though I imagine the only reason the French are rushing in is so that they can hide evidence of all the crazy crap they have been selling to Gaddafi over the years.
 
Even though I imagine the only reason the French are rushing in is so that they can hide evidence of all the crazy crap they have been selling to Gaddafi over the years.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrQNwrmBXrw]French want Total control of Libyan oil - YouTube[/ame]
 
Did John and his friends form a group saying that having children is important, but also that getting raped was the only way for it to happen? Did they say we were "lucky" to have a past rape?



Uh, France has the 3rd biggest military in the world and led the charge into Libya.

Dude the quote said that rapid acceleration of military spending will only happen with a Pearl Harbor style attack. It's true. If you're with a bitch who doesn't want to have sex, rape is the only way you're gonna have kids with her. Unappealing proposition, but not a factually incorrect one.

I still think you're looking for more meaning in the quote than it comes with.

As for France and Libya, look up some French history. The French have a historical and modern relationship with North Africa. Most of their immigrants come from North Africa. They have a centuries-old colonial legacy in North Africa that survives to this day. European geopolitics is saturated for France, but North Africa is not. Libya is a natural vacuum inviting French influence especially after the deposition of Ghaddafi.

And that's not even mentioning the economic relationship. France been buying mad Libyan goods son.

What's the French military got to do, got to do with it?
 
No I don't forsee that and you point is well taken. My point was that what assets and successes we have and could potentially bring to bear will be just fine for the foreseeable future with our current military status quo. Right now the US doesn't need to focus on a strong military nearly as much as we need to focus on a strong economy.

No I don't, and again you are right, industrial espionage, sabotage, geopolitical positioning etc is serious business. But I don't think simply signing checks to the military solves that problem. That and for every dollar lost to these problems I'm sure another is lost to in-house asset stripping, a problem much more easily solved with immediate nonagressive action.

No objection to the US as a lynchpin. The dollar is the primary engine of world trade and for better or worse its destruction means the most gruesome world depression in history is likely inevitable.

As to world savagery, to my knowledge no one has been more savage and supported more savages than the United States in the last several decades. One might make a good case for the world being a more peaceful place if the US brought its troops home and told the CIA to stop running around fomenting civil unrest, destabilizing countries and supporting tin pot dictators.

Can't disagree with you on anything except for not spending on military. I think the military is equally important to the economy for two reasons:

1) Terrorism. A paradigm shift from conventional warfare to asymmetrical warfare requires a major shift in tactics, training and technology.

In fact, I'll hazard a guess that dollar for dollar, drones have been more effective against terrorists than any airplane in any hangar in US possession.

2) Cyberwarfare. We're rapidly expanding our technology to incorporate networking, but we have negligible cybersecurity measures that will require a paradigm shift to overcome.

In fact, I think cybersecurity is set to explode as a field considering how fast internet-ready devices and networking are growing.

Fuck man, mitigating these two threats will virtually ensure US economic growth, as long as we have financial reform and good infrastructure.
 
1) Terrorism.

Until genuine terrorists can hold a candle to state sponsored terrorism I think there is no reason at all to fund anything claiming to be anti terror. The best way to prevent terrorism is to force the intelligence community to cut ties with terrorists. Seems like practically every time there's a 'terror attack' there are military/intelligence fingerprints all over it.

2) Cyberwarfare. We're rapidly expanding our technology to incorporate networking, but we have negligible cybersecurity measures that will require a paradigm shift to overcome.
I agree although it's really hard to tell what's true and what's not. The Chinese are penetrating deep into foreign networks. Some of the stuff that comes out about how much data they're getting their hands on and what kind of control they can exert on traffic flow is pretty scary. On the other hand it's hard to know how much they and others really do and how much is fearmongering and outright lies by supposed aggrieved parties.

There are all the stories about 'The Chinese hackers could flip a switch and shut down the entire power grid!' and whatnot. I'm more inclined to think this is a developing cover story for shenanigans to come than it is a real threat. The corporate media usually doesn't tell us about real international threats, just the ones with domestic sponsorship.
 
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Over a decade after 9/11, and look at where we are. Can we even imagine a world at peace anymore? That would be weird, wouldn't it?

If there isn't a war going on somewhere, or if there isn't an enemy that needs destroyed, then there must be something wrong. We're just supposed to be at war now, at all times. That's what's been programmed into us over the past decade, and it's worked. Doesn't matter that bin Laden is dead, Iraq is over, Afghanistan is winding down... still have to be at war with at least someone.
 
In Memorium...Useful idiots - all of you.

Perfect post from a RedShield.

For me, I spent a couple hundred hours investigating.

There is absolutely no doubt it was staged. I am done trying to convince or tell anyone. The people that know the truth are awakened and we know who we are and we know what is really going on.

The others that are asleep:
I get really sad to see you guys miss what is right in front of you so obvious I mean.. it's like two big huge fat tits wiggling in your face, and you don't see them.

For those the believe the official story, I am glad you are happy, ignorance is bliss, I wish I believed it unfortunately, I took a look at the evidence just like millions of professional scholars, the worlds top engineers and scientists, government officials, police and military, etc. I saw the clear grade school truth.

If you looked at the evidence, you'd awaken it's that easy.
But like I said, good luck the game is already over anyway.
 
Very rich forum.
Very rich content.

The French?

Well, we are in Afghanistan with you, because we believe that 9/11 was a genuine terrorist attack.

No, we refused Iraq, and we were right.
Iraq was not linked to terrorism and/but Saudi Arabia? Guess.

You have been to Iraq, we all know the consequences.

Have a nice day everyone.
And whatever, let's remember the victims of this tragedy prior to any conspiracy theories.