Total Number Of People In Internet Marketing

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God knows best and I might be wrong...

But based on my on survey as of today (28th February 2012) and based on only the 27 internet marketing forums I visit...

There are a total of 2,249,777 members. That's over 2.2 million! Talk about competition. LOL :P

But I am sure there are overlapping. The 2.2 million is not unique. I'm sure there are people here in this forum who are also registered on another forum.

WickedFire rocks for the number of people on this forum!

If Admin wants to know the current standings of this forum, you can PM me. And those members interested in more information on my findings, please PM me too! Have a good one.

Take care,
Surveyor
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Yeah but how many of them actually know how to sell anything? Being an IM means you have to be the "whole package". That's where the 80/20 rule comes into play... About 20% of those people are the only ones actually making any decent money...Probably less than that.
 
Many of those forums are full of members who have no idea what they are doing. All you have to do to realize this is ask a question on the Warrior Forum.
 
You really think 20% of those people are making money? It's pointless to argue baseless statistics back and forth, but... I'm willing to bet less than 7%.
 
It'd be more useful to only count users with more than say 50 posts and count say 60% of that number, to eliminate overlap and people that no longer do IM. That would give you a way more estimate of how many people are in IM.
 
Yeah but how many of them actually know how to sell anything? Being an IM means you have to be the "whole package". That's where the 80/20 rule comes into play... About 20% of those people are the only ones actually making any decent money...Probably less than that.

Let me fix that for you.

Of that 2.2 million 20% of those people make any money at all. Of which the top 20% of those making money will make 80% of said money.
 
It'd be more useful to only count users with more than say 50 posts and count say 60% of that number, to eliminate overlap and people that no longer do IM. That would give you a way more estimate of how many people are in IM.


^^ This.


Have you forgotten about a tiny little program called xrumer?
 
Let me fix that for you.

Of that 2.2 million 20% of those people make any money at all. Of which the top 20% of those making money will make 80% of said money.

Actually 10% are real people and not bots/dup accounts. 80% of what's left are probably old accounts of people who don't do IM anymore in any degree. 20% of those left perhaps make any money. So perhaps 8k professionals perhaps.
 
Many of those forums are full of members who have no idea what they are doing. All you have to do to realize this is ask a question on the Warrior Forum.

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Don't forget about cross-forum members... I proley have a old WaFo and DP account out there or more that I've forgotten about... Some people actively use many account across many boards, especially merchants.

So, if you disregard the:
  • xrumered accounts
  • cross-forum accounts
  • below 50 post accounts
  • just there to troll accounts
  • Failed/abandoned IM (broken dreams) accounts
  • merchants who don't give a shit about IM accounts
  • multiple accounts by one user on same forum just up to no good accounts
  • and plain stupid members who will never excel accounts

...I'd estimate that it's pretty much 1% of that 2.2 million that is any kind of competition.

And as we've learned here very well, there are all kinds of "careers" within IM, such as:
  • Aff SEOers
  • Aff PPCers
  • Spammers
  • Domainers
  • PPC Arbitragers
  • AdSense Farmers
  • DB jockeys
  • ebook sellers/"Gurus"
  • Offer Network owners
  • Service providers
  • Link-slinging Merchants
  • etc...

So competition is really low if you think about it. Tiny.

This news is pretty encouraging to me, in fact.
 
Why does the surveyor not ask survey questions for his survey of the IM forums being surveyed in his survey?

If he took a moment to ask survey questions in his survey, he would have come to the concusion that WF did not need to be surveyed in this IM forum survey because we are a Gay Webmaster forum.

Surveyor, please come back and survey us again when you are doing a survey of Webmaster demographics. Your survey would be more accurate then for the people who wish to view surveyed data conducted through surveys in which you conduct them based on registered members only instead of conducting survey questions to base your surveyed findings of survey data on.
 
It pisses me off how EVERYONE thinks they can get into internet marketing these days... it's absolutely ridiculous, from the 16 year old chick to the 70 year old grandfather, they're all putting up shitty WordPress sites claiming they are "Experts" in the field, selling SEO services and shit like that. They're basically giving the rest of us a bad name by doing a shitty job and charging ridiculously low prices.

I totally blame forums like WaFo and the "so-called gurus" out there like Ryan Deiss for doing webinars and selling ebooks to supposedly "teach anyone" how to ball online! I swear you look at Ryan Deiss' fanpage and it's all baby boomers that know fuck all about the internet that are now self proclaimed "internet marketers". Lord help us.

Same goes with John Chow... this fucker has all the grandmas of the world following his blog. I can't believe his followers are getting so excited about his FREE WORDPRESS INSTALLATION giveaway that is apparently sponsored by HostGator?! Fuck, don't those fuckers know that inside HostGator's cPanel there is a 1-click WP Installation button? Meanwhile the fucker is racking them up HostGator commissions, and those grandmars are gonna turn into "Internet Marketing Specialists".

/rant
 
According the the 1% ratio 22,000 of those are IM millionaires. I'd bet easily a million of those make somewhere between nothing and $1 a day, most are in vast IM debt and will never turn a profit.
 
With all this being said, I feel like there needs to be some sort of accreditation system implemented for Internet Marketers. The same thing Lawyers and Doctors have to go through. A test or a proof of valor conducted by a unbiased and reputable company would help this industry a lot. When companies outsource their SEO and other IM needs, they would feel a lot more trusting if there was a degree or certificate people would show them. Just my $0.02