Tracking pixel bad

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CerIs

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Prob newbie question but are tracking pixels on my site from a network bad? Ie even for text links the code this network gives me looks like:

<a href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=MMGcVlaw&offerid=17619216&type=2&subid=0" >
<IMG border=0 src="http://www.net-a-porter.com/images/products/3721616_in_l.jpg" ></a>
<IMG border=0 width=1 height=1 src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=MMGcViq0law&bids=176198.37216&type=2&subid=0" >

The bit in blue may allow them to track impressions but wont it also let them see where i get my traffic from, ie keywords? Maybe im just paranoid but this is deffinitly not information i want to give them.

C
 


lol vut. tracking pixel doesnt have shit for info on KWs etc.. it passes variables to prosper but not vice versa.
 
CerIs said:
Prob newbie question but are tracking pixels on my site from a network bad? Ie even for text links the code this network gives me looks like:

<a href="http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/click?id=MMGcVlaw&offerid=17619216&type=2&subid=0" >
<IMG border=0 src="http://www.net-a-porter.com/images/products/3721616_in_l.jpg" ></a>
<IMG border=0 width=1 height=1 src="http://ad.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/show?id=MMGcViq0law&bids=176198.37216&type=2&subid=0" >

The bit in blue may allow them to track impressions but wont it also let them see where i get my traffic from, ie keywords? Maybe im just paranoid but this is deffinitly not information i want to give them.

C
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Ya it is possible to pull keyword information with a pixel so get rid of it as soon as possible.
 
juntao65 said:
lol vut. tracking pixel doesnt have shit for info on KWs etc.. it passes variables to prosper but not vice versa.
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Wrong..

If they want to find out where your traffic is coming from they can do it with that pixel. This is not a conversion pixel, this is an impression tracking pixel on his landing page I believe.
 
I bet they probably have something in the terms that i cant remove it though right? Also would they actually give that information (keywords) to the advertiser?

C
 
CerIs said:
I bet they probably have something in the terms that i cant remove it though right? Also would they actually give that information (keywords) to the advertiser?

C
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All the linkshare pixel is used for is impression tracking - It's useless, and really no advertisers even pay attention to it there. It doesn't track referrers to the page, and Linkshare doesn't give advertisers a way to grab any data off of that besides impressions (and I don't know of any real advertisers that use Linkshare's own search service.) Remote that pixel, and you'll be fine.
 
juntao65 said:
lol vut. tracking pixel doesnt have shit for info on KWs etc.. it passes variables to prosper but not vice versa.
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Whoever said a tracking pixel had to be an image. I've always done it simply with php.

For example

a little mod_rewrite
Code: 
RewriteRule ^track.gif /tracking.php [L]

a little PHP
Code: 
<?
header("Content-type: image/gif");

/* A lil bit of code here like collecting $_SERVER['HTTP_REFFERER'] or $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] or $_SERVER['USER-AGENT'] into a database of sort */

readfile('some-local-gif.gif');
exit();
?>

So browser calls for a gif, gets a gif, but its actually a PHP collecting what ever information a php on your site would normally be able to collect. Main difference is the referrer will be your lander, instead of the page that called the lander. But just goes to show the 'tracking' pixel is capable of collecting more than just what you attach to the url.
 
kblessinggr said:
Whoever said a tracking pixel had to be an image. I've always done it simply with php.

For example

a little mod_rewrite
Code: 
RewriteRule ^track.gif /tracking.php [L]
a little PHP
Code: 
<?
header("Content-type: image/gif");

/* A lil bit of code here like collecting $_SERVER['HTTP_REFFERER'] or $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] or $_SERVER['USER-AGENT'] into a database of sort */

readfile('some-local-gif.gif');
exit();
?>
So browser calls for a gif, gets a gif, but its actually a PHP collecting what ever information a php on your site would normally be able to collect. Main difference is the referrer will be your lander, instead of the page that called the lander. But just goes to show the 'tracking' pixel is capable of collecting more than just what you attach to the url.
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Lol, are you stupid? A tracking pixel is NEVER an image.
 
To clarify something, if you have a network impression tracking pixel (prevalent in CJ, linkshare, etc..) on your landing page, they cannot find the source of the traffic to your site.

Example: Traffic comes from makemoniesonline.com to yourlandingpage.com. Yourlandingpage.com contains the impression tracking pixel. The network will see that the impression pixel was on yourlandingpage.com, but they'll never know about makemoniesonline.com.

As johu mentioned, you can remove the impression pixel without a problem, though.
 
Example: Traffic comes from makemoniesonline.com to yourlandingpage.com. Yourlandingpage.com contains the impression tracking pixel. The network will see that the impression pixel was on yourlandingpage.com, but they'll never know about makemoniesonline.com.
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but dont alot of those stat counters work the same way? There just a remote image on your site and they get all your info, from refferer to visitor country.
 
kblessinggr said:
Whoever said a tracking pixel had to be an image. I've always done it simply with php.

For example

a little mod_rewrite
Code: 
RewriteRule ^track.gif /tracking.php [L]

a little PHP
Code: 
<?
header("Content-type: image/gif");

/* A lil bit of code here like collecting $_SERVER['HTTP_REFFERER'] or $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'] or $_SERVER['USER-AGENT'] into a database of sort */

readfile('some-local-gif.gif');
exit();
?>

So browser calls for a gif, gets a gif, but its actually a PHP collecting what ever information a php on your site would normally be able to collect. Main difference is the referrer will be your lander, instead of the page that called the lander. But just goes to show the 'tracking' pixel is capable of collecting more than just what you attach to the url.
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So this got me thinking.

Could this be used for loading of multiple pixels? Say I have adwords account, msn account and a ysm account all running the same campaign. Could I put those pixels from these platforms into one of these IMG self hosted pixels and then just put that link on the networks pixel tracking for the offer?

I don't know if I'm making sense though.
 
tvmatt said:
To clarify something, if you have a network impression tracking pixel (prevalent in CJ, linkshare, etc..) on your landing page, they cannot find the source of the traffic to your site.

Example: Traffic comes from makemoniesonline.com to yourlandingpage.com. Yourlandingpage.com contains the impression tracking pixel. The network will see that the impression pixel was on yourlandingpage.com, but they'll never know about makemoniesonline.com.

As johu mentioned, you can remove the impression pixel without a problem, though.
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But CJ will ask for traffic source proofs if you make enough. :updown:
 
kblessinggr said:
So a 1x1 pixel in a .gif/.jpg/etc isn't an "image" ?
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Of course not.. A gif/jpg can't track shit.

It's always a script, it may be rewritten to have the extension of a gif/jpg but of course it isn't one, ever...

EDIT: And also in the script you referenced there is no need for setting a content type or loading an image into the script.. What is the point?

Double EDIT: But of course there is no point in ever rewriting it to a jpg/gif anyway..

Code: 
<img src="http://site.com/tracking.php" style="display: none" />

This will work in exactly the same way.
 
070707 said:
But CJ will ask for traffic source proofs if you make enough. :updown:
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Not necessarily, as long as your traffic meets normal patterns & the advertiser doesn't raise any concerns. I've pushed traffic in CJ for years with mid 6-figures in commissions & have never been asked for traffic sources by their Network Quality department.

Then again, I've also worked on the affiliate management side for a few programs in CJ some years back. I'd never hesitate to ask for traffic sources for sketchy looking traffic - 99% of the time, traffic isn't legit. When people hit CJ with fraud, they tended to do it on a large scale - easy to find & catch. If you're legit though, you shouldn't have to worry about it.
 
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