US Schools = Nazi Propaganda?

I stand corrected:

The New Deal brought jobs and relief to millions of Americans. It did not however end the depression. The depression ended because of World War II. During the war the nations economy was devoted to the production of weapons and other materials necessary to win the conflict. Roosevelt presided over an enormous change in American and the presidency of the United States. The war only helped to increase the size and power of the presidential office. The presidency would never be the same nor would the world.

98.04.04: The Great Depression and New Deal

Did the New Deal provide relief and create millions of jobs during the worst economic down-turn in our history with many of its reforms still in effect today? Yes. Did it ultimately pull us out of the Great Depression? No. Pride swallowed, you were right.
 


Did the New Deal provide relief and create millions of jobs during the worst economic down-turn in our history with many of its reforms still in effect today? Yes.
I'd say no, but that is a much larger conversation.

Did it ultimately pull us out of the Great Depression? No. Pride swallowed, you were right.
Not only did the New Deal exacerbate the Depression (which makes the above sorta suspect) but the War didn't end the Depression either. Oh sure, for macroeconomists it did, but if you look at micro, the average person suffered under wage and price controls, and women were pressed into the workforce.

If the goal of economic progress is to work less and have more, WWII was an epic failure. The true economic boom came when the war ended.
 
The only problem here though luke, is that although the propaganda and mass agenda is being so heavily promoted amongst our youth through our schools = the things being taught have no relation to my far right, conservative ideals. It's a bullshit, liberal, jewish, multiculturalist agenda.
Setting my disagreement with your chosen agenda aside, the METHODOLOGY is horrible, inhumane, and downright EVIL. Hence my creating this thread.

Please tell me that you agree you wouldn't put your children in such a school system by choice, even if their agenda aligns with your own...


luke are you a high school drop out?
No, but I wish I were. I'd have learned SO DAMN MUCH during those years that I was instead forced to learn lies and propaganda instead.

...And just in case you think that we're past all of that propaganda in the classrooms today, no, it's getting WORSE. Now textbooks are going to start propagandizing that the Fed is constitutional and those who oppose it are not. Go Murika!


You know what you guys still dont do? Forcing school attendance. Good old germany imprisons families that deny their poor children access to school (I love the wording).

Everything you guys fear being implemented, Germany already does. Just a matter of time til weve got the wall back.
Don't they let German families homeschool?


And so continues lukep's slow descent into madness. It's picking up velocity now though.
That's the trouble with the truth... Once you can see it you look like you're insane to people who can't. :(


Sorry but the world trade center conspiracy threads are much more believable and entertaining.
Notice you didn't say "Scary."

When trying to state that the US has been (for many years) much more interested in creating obedient citizens (rather than educated citizens) - which is very true, this video bluntly lies and misinforms the viewer about Nazi Germany and the reasons leading the Hitler taking power (and keeping it).
So are you saying that the Prussians did NOT want the things that this video says they did? Or they just weren't able to achieve them?

After watching Century of the Self, I personally believed that Propaganda came about a good bit later, say, 1920... But I don't see any proof, one way or the other, that Prussia didn't try this first. I just have this guy's word for it, but to his credit he seems to be dead-on accurate about many things I had previously decided are true.

Please provide any evidence to the contrary and it will be appreciated.


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Love this. Thinking of even sigging it... Too big/much detail to be an avatar though. :(
 
You know what you guys still dont do? Forcing school attendance. Good old germany imprisons families that deny their poor children access to school (I love the wording).

Everything you guys fear being implemented, Germany already does. Just a matter of time til weve got the wall back.

actually parents can get in trouble for not having their kids go to school and so can the kid. . . it's called truancy
 
This is true, but I ended up learning not to take what other people think very seriously.
Yeah, I'm getting there... But watching you and people like Jonas33h go at it makes me wonder if I should be replying at all. :D

While you're here, do you know anything more about this Prussian stuff? Does Gatto go into it? I like his style.
 
While you're here, do you know anything more about this Prussian stuff? Does Gatto go into it? I like his style.
John Taylor Gatto. One of America's most celebrated teachers goes through how horrible public education is. There is tons of his stuff online.
 
John Taylor Gatto. One of America's most celebrated teachers goes through how horrible public education is. There is tons of his stuff online.
Oh I wiki'd him... It saw his awesome record but I don't see anything from google results or wikipedia where he talks about Prussian propaganda specifically... So I wondered if you knew of some.
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8cr0p9HaG8]The purpose and origins of public education - John Gatto - YouTube[/ame]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkT0k57tAHo]The Underground History Of American Education- John Taylor Gatto, full.wmv - YouTube[/ame]
 
Yeah, I'm getting there... But watching you and people like Jonas33h go at it makes me wonder if I should be replying at all. :D
There are days when I wonder what the point is. But as long as I am here, I will try. I reserve the right to give up or go somewhere else at any time.

I gotta say, there are a few guys here who "get me". You, Jake, erect, a few others. I really appreciate that. I appreciate how rare it is for a misanthrope and anarchist to have friends who respect his opinion.
 
Yeah, I'm getting there... But watching you and people like Jonas33h go at it makes me wonder if I should be replying at all. :D

While you're here, do you know anything more about this Prussian stuff? Does Gatto go into it? I like his style.

lulz-- the debates are fun takes the mind off of work and by debating it opens you up to different opinions/views.

I have grown a lot just from debating things some of which I thought I was against but through debate I see the logic and will change my view on things. Since joining WF I have accomplished two things one was making money online the second learning to be a paranoid conspiracy theorist as some on this forum would say.
 
I've experienced high school in Canada, Texas, and the UK.

And yes, Texas is obviously into indoctrination, whereas Canada isn't so much. In Canada you're taught to think, whereas in Texas you're just taught to memorize. In the UK I was technically in college, so actual school might be different than what I experienced, but it was good too. Fucken hard though!
 
And that, my fellow wickedfire friends, is how luke descended into a world of lunacy....
 
It kind of reminds me of how when Obama was first getting elected that they had kids in some school singing a song about him. Who does that?!

For those of you don't know, the same thing happened with Hitler. Once he got elected people were so happy and blind that they sang about him in schools. So it is there and if we keep going down the same road it will get worse.
 
And that, my fellow wickedfire friends, is how luke descended into a world of lunacy....
Care to back up your accusation with some proof, n00b?


It kind of reminds me of how when Obama was first getting elected that they had kids in some school singing a song about him. Who does that?!

For those of you don't know, the same thing happened with Hitler.
As well it should. We're right on schedule according to Gatto and the film in the OP. Scary times indeed.