Surely it would be more humane to bury them at sea. Honestly, how hard is it to put the ashes on a plane and dump them over the ocean if you're too cheap to send them home in Urns to their family?
US Soldiers now get burial in Landfill.
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Surely it would be more humane to bury them at sea. Honestly, how hard is it to put the ashes on a plane and dump them over the ocean if you're too cheap to send them home in Urns to their family?
They knew what they were getting into when they signed up to kill indigenous poor people, fuck them.
landfull isn't really a mpount of trash.. i hope you know that. Landfill sites get dug up several meteres into the ground, trags gets crushed and dumped in and then it gets topped up with around 3 metres of soil, and a year later grass and stuff grows on top and you never ever realise that that was a giant wasteland.
Maybe they build a graveyard on top of the landfill, and looks something like the image below, and with some adjacent work in progress landfull that will turn into nice green land in a few years to come.
You cannot really build anything like houses or anything on these former landfull sites because the ground isn't firm yet, if you build a house or a building on it it might damage it because of weak foundations. but it's perfect for stuff like graves because the land donest need to be firm and set,
Maybe they build a graveyard on top of the landfill, and looks something like the image below, and with some adjacent work in progress landfull that will turn into nice green land in a few years to come.
You cannot really build anything like houses or anything on these former landfull sites because the ground isn't firm yet, if you build a house or a building on it it might damage it because of weak foundations. but it's perfect for stuff like graves because the land donest need to be firm and set,
It's not about "finding your way to heaven", it's about having a body here for the rapture and resurrection. You get a new body, but like anything, common thought gets skewed if you aren't literate enough to read the Word first-hand.
You have to understand, the message got passed down by word-of-mouth for thousands of years or written down and read to them by someone else. While the base of the message didn't change, people's perceptions of its meaning did, and if those hearing the message didn't know how to read, how could they verify what they were being told? It wasn't really until King James that the common people were able to read for themselves the message and Word of God.
So anyway, as far as Cremation and Burial goes, it was believed that your soul would be destroyed by fire if burned. So, anything unclean, like a decomposing body, witchcraft, etc. was burned to prevent them from tainting us and God in the future.
So, based on that logic, if anything unclean is burned and thought to be destroyed forever - your Soul could be as well and not come back with a new body if cremated. I could be wrong, but that's how I've perceived the Word when reading those passages dealing with burning and cremation when discussing those actions.
However, cremation is hardly mentioned at all in the New Testament. So, if you believe in Jesus, you can probably have a safe bet that you'll be okay if you get cremated and lived a good life. After all, it'd suck to be burned in a house fire and be screwed for eternity.
Now this is something that is mentioned a fair bit in the Bible. The most direct passage comes on Jesus' resurrection when he makes it clear that he was "not a ghost", which implies that since he is not one, they obviously exist.
Seems like the solders remains, or best part thereof were returned to the family and this was mainly unidentified body parts or situations where the family has said no to getting an arm in the mail or burial / service has taken place.
Wouldn't this be considered medical waste and a bio hazard - I thought burning and dumping was standard for this - same as if you have your appendix out.
I think this is more a sell more news papers story than a scandal.
Wouldn't this be considered medical waste and a bio hazard - I thought burning and dumping was standard for this - same as if you have your appendix out.
I think this is more a sell more news papers story than a scandal.
i'm curious, how many in this thread - particularly the ones discussing the intelligence of troops - actually served?
Dude, shut the fuck up with this. It's not hard to imagine how retarded the average grunt is when he believes in dying hundreds of thousands of milesaway from his family while affiliated to a piece of cloth.
Seriously, you will not find military sympathizes here. All soldiers are contributing to the needless and wasteful wars, they are the problem, not governments, but the actual soldiers killing in the name of peace.
I'm not looking for sympathizers. I'm looking for someone who actually has the experience to speak on the intelligence and motives of soldiers. Ya know; as opposed to those who make broad generalizations premised on their personal politics.
I think that's the dumbest comment I've read on the internet and that's saying something.
Ignorant little homo.
meh, just wait until if & when the US actually does go into Iran. No more of this sending dead bodies back home. Iran isn't a land locked nation, so just throw them in the ocean, Osama style. Unfortunately, I believe those making the decisions care that little about those who die for their decisions, and would actually do something like that.
One should never cloud their disagreements with politics & reasons for war, with the sacrifices men & women in uniform do make. At least give them a proper burial.
One should never cloud their disagreements with politics & reasons for war, with the sacrifices men & women in uniform do make. At least give them a proper burial.
I follow your logic to this point. But the argument is relating to LukeP's modern day Pastor's interpretation and nowhere in modern day theologically sound Christian doctrine is this found. LukeP either misunderstood the message or his Pastor is off base. Either could be true. As pointed out in earlier threads, much of the Bible itself is letters to churches of the day that were not sticking to Doctrine. Jesus came also to point out the Jews and their twisting of Doctrine. The Book of Revelation has chapters referring to the ways in which future churches would deviate from doctrine.
People want to read the Bible to suit what they want to hear, not what it says. I pointed out earlier when someone said this guy "Hagee" was representative of Christianity. No he is not, he is representative of preaching false doctrine.
None of the above mention redemption or of thwarting reincarnation. The burning above is the way they chose to destroy something. Back then, they had no other way to destroy things. The death sentence was for many things, though scholars have debated the use of the words in some of those verses that could also mean "branding". The Sorcerers, it was just they way to permanently destroy their scrolls. Even in the Revelation quote, the use of "lake of fire" is hotly debated amongst Theologians.
Either way, you should not conclude that the fire in any of the verses above somehow purified anything. The fire destroyed it. I do not see anywhere in the quoted verses that a soul could come back. You mentioned something unclean being burned and not coming back, that is correct. Those punished above with death, if they were, would not be coming back. They were not being redeemed, they were removed.
Right. There is nothing wrong with cremation.
The Disciples were always getting things wrong throughout the Bible. They thought there were Ghosts. The passages where they thought Jesus to be a Ghost, that is because they thought Ghosts exist. Your last verse quoted is Jesus telling them he is not a Ghost. He is not implying there are Ghosts. For example, if I startled someone after they thought I was dead and they were scared, not understanding that I was not dead, I too may say, "Look, touch my hands, look at me, feel me, do Ghosts have substance? I am real." I am tapping into their perception of what a Ghost would be, not agreeing that their are ghosts.
With that said the Bible does not allow for Ghosts of ancestors and people to be present. Though a person can come back or even be summoned by a Sorcerer, but not as a Ghost. As either a real person as in the case of Lazarus or vision as was the case with Samuel. But the Bible does make it clear that their are Angels, Demons, Spirits etc around us all of the time. It is these extradimensional beings that could pose as a Ghost or pose as a Person or work with Sorcerers etc. So there are no "Ghosts" of relatives with souls wandering around, but there are Spirit beings, according to the Bible.
@TigerUK: No, the landfill in question in virginia they showed video of on the news here was in fact a filthy dumpyard with hoardes of seagulls all over it.
Think all our soldiers would be in the middle east today if the government hadn't have forced them to be there?
...All three of us were as dumb as a bag of rocks, by the way. I got damn lucky.
I guess the real issue with this is no one knows what part of the body the "Soul" is in. What if you lose 10% of your body and only 90% of you gets to go to heaven? -Or some dumb-shit argument like that.
No, the Government is worse; it gives them (strong) incentive to do so.
Think all our soldiers would be in the middle east today if the government hadn't have forced them to be there?
I didn't serve but that's because at 17 years of age I could see that when both of my brothers served (one navy, the other army) it made their lives shitty and they came back unhappy.
...All three of us were as dumb as a bag of rocks, by the way. I got damn lucky.
I read that it's a grey line on what they consider 'extra body parts.' If we were talking about a few fingers, sure, that's one thing, throw that shit down the garbage disposal. -But in general when you can't tell what part of a body it is, just put it in the damn coffin!
I guess the real issue with this is no one knows what part of the body the "Soul" is in. What if you lose 10% of your body and only 90% of you gets to go to heaven? -Or some dumb-shit argument like that.
"I guess the real issue with this is no one knows what part of the body the "Soul" is in. What if you lose 10% of your body and only 90% of you gets to go to heaven? -Or some dumb-shit argument like that."
Reminds me of the beginning clip of this
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Reminds me of the beginning clip of this
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9YLk4ilql0]God doesn't understand - YouTube[/ame]
An unexpected onset of your inability to type would not be met with disappointment from me.