USA Officially found to be an Oligarchy

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Although the premise will surprise 0% of the people on this board, the depth of this study and the strength of their conclusion are pretty extreme and hard to ignore:

Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy - Business Insider

The U.S. government does not represent the interests of the majority of the country's citizens, but is instead ruled by those of the rich and powerful, a new study from Princeton and Northwestern universities has concluded.

After sifting through nearly 1,800 U.S. policies enacted in that period and comparing them to the expressed preferences of average Americans (50th percentile of income), affluent Americans (90th percentile), and large special interests groups, researchers concluded that the U.S. is dominated by its economic elite.

The peer-reviewed study, which will be taught at these universities in September, says: "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

Researchers concluded that U.S. government policies rarely align with the preferences of the majority of Americans, but do favour special interests and lobbying organizations: "When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the US political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favour policy change, they generally do not get it."

Revolutions have been fought over exactly this throughout history... Of course our citizens are a special kind of lazy sheeple.

Not a fuck will be given by the rigged voting machines anyway.

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First of all we are a republic.
A republic has an elite that rules over the masses.
Now in theory we elect our elite but the system always been tilted in favor of the rick.
If look at our founding father you will see many people who owned large estates and in some cases slaves.
Now if you are in doubt that we are a republic just repeat the The Pledge of Allegiance or read this line from it
"I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice ...'


Now if you have doubts what a republic is Plato has anice book out about it
 
Now in theory we elect our elite but the system always been tilted in favor of the rick.

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I recently watched a series of videos about Russia, from the Yeltsin period up to more or less the current time. The period of the oligarchs in Russia reduced that country to something resembling chaotic anarchy. The wealth of the country was raped, living standards became very low, there was so much waste in the sense of opportunity, under-utilisation of resources, etc. It reminded me of The Sopranos - parasites do nothing but destroy, undermine, wreck and rarely if ever make a positive contribution to the society they feed off. It's like the mafia here in Italy - a cancer eating its way through the host. I might be making false comparisons, and I hope I am, but oligarchy does not seem to me the most effective or efficient way of running a nation.
 
Revolutions have been fought over exactly this throughout history... Of course our citizens are a special kind of lazy sheeple.
There will be an an economic restructuring here to shift the balance of economic power... eventually. But cycles are long, and I don't have forever. I'd rather join the 1% and become an oligarch.
 
There will be an an economic restructuring here to shift the balance of economic power... eventually. But cycles are long, and I don't have forever. I'd rather join the 1% and become an oligarch.

This pretty much sums my belief system.

I am an anarchist and I wish that a money system and property did not exist. However changes like this take too long so in the meantime might as well try to make some money...
 
I think we've always been an Oligarchy. It's just now with globalism it's easier for the 1% to ignore the 99% so it's more severe.
 
Revolutions have been fought over exactly this throughout history... Of course our citizens are a special kind of lazy sheeple.

Actually No. Revolutions have always been about something much more basic: Hunger.

See French Revolution which followed the failure of harvests. Or the Arab Spring of 2008, which followed an unprecedented rise in the global price of food. As soon as food prices fell (because the hedge funds went back to speculating on oil instead of wheat), things subsided.

There's a reason the Emperors of Rome had a principle of "bread and circuses". They literally doled out free wheat to everyone for centuries, and had child poverty laws for everyone who lived within the empire whether citizen or provincial. The senator Cicero spent some time complaining about how this practice reduced productivity, corrupted the spirit and supported lazy people, but the emperors ignored him - and were probably right to do so - they kept the peace for 800 years and the Roman empire enjoyed a very high overall standard of civilization that wasn't equaled again till the 18th century.

The modern welfare state is the modern version of the Roman state.

The "lazy sheeple" will only revolt if they're hungry. It's not rational to rock the boat and risk your life, livelihood and property for "ideals", it never has been. The sheeple are actually smart, and those calling for the sheeple to revolt while they sit on their backsides are being disingenuous.

In the same way, people like myself are happy to pay taxes to feed some of the sheeple, because we've worked out that anarchy caused by having a mass of hungry people destabilizing things is much more expensive. Again, it's a rational response which the idealists tend to find difficult to understand.

P.S. The American "revolution" was not a true revolution - it was about American oligarchs protecting their own interests when they diverged from Britain's interests - e.g. Britain negotiated a treaty with the Indian tribes because it was expensive for the British taxpayer to have to keep sending troops across the Atlantic to defend Americans who weren't paying taxes and kept making incursions into Indian land and then hollering for British help. But the oligarchs wanted to continue to try to take Indian land to increase their own wealth. And of course slavery - Britain was in the process of abolishing it and the American oligarchs wanted to keep it. Hence the break-up between the two countries (which got dressed up by the Americans in a lot of "freedom" rhetoric to gull the average person into fighting for the interests of oligarchs like Jefferson).
 
This pretty much sums my belief system.

I am an anarchist and I wish that a money system and property did not exist. However changes like this take too long so in the meantime might as well try to make some money...

Could you be more specific as far as what you mean by "property?"
 
Could you be more specific as far as what you mean by "property?"


I won't speak for wiredniko, of course. But there is a school of thought among anarchists that considers ownership of property to be theft.* Here's a reasonably thorough, if frustratingly wrongheaded, treatment of the issue...

An Anarchist FAQ - B.3 Why are anarchists against private property? | Infoshop.org

Confusion about the meaning of anarchy has resulted in the public's misguided perception of an anarchist:


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As you know, this man has more in common with a classical anarchist than a molotov cocktail-throwing hooligan...


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The state evil is not the cause but the effect of social evil, just as the sea-waves are the effect not the cause of the storm. The only way of curing the disease is by removing the cause itself. - Gandhi


*I suspect you already know about this particular school of thought. I'm posting it for those who are unfamiliar with the concept. :)
 
This pretty much sums my belief system.

I am an anarchist and I wish that a money system and property did not exist. However changes like this take too long so in the meantime might as well try to make some money...

So you'd be happy to share all of your possessions, surroundings, and natural resources around you with all 7 billion of us? First come, first serve? That's pretty nice of you. :)
 
There's nothing wrong with becoming one and expanding your influence. You could think of it as a financial freedom with the ability to change and help others.
I'm just presenting other perspectives here, i don't claim them to be mine....but...

...one could feel repelled by the idea that the financial elite rules above the poor.
Just out of principle. Or because they believe that influence shouldn't be measured in money.

Also:
"Don't hate the player, hate the game"

Might apply for some people, who envision some sort of social utopia with less violence and more equal opportunity for everyone.