Using Food Stamps at Fast Food Places?

[potentialeight]

Frank is close, but is fundamentally off base: on a moral level, I do not think people ON MY TEAM should go hungry. I define "my team" as the people I'm responsible for and I make sure they're taken care of. That doesn't include all the jabronies across the nation. They're no more my brother than starving kids in Uganda.

The only way nationwide (worldwide) hunger gets fixed is if a few passionate individuals from the free market take small responsibilities.



Where does that hunger stop? food? clothing? shelter? education? health? It's equally as sad to see a family living in a cardboard box in an alley ... or children dying from curable diseases. A bleeding heart is a dangerous thing once scale is considered. Is it really better to kill off productive sectors of society in order to keep non-productive ones on life support? Sure, everyone feels bad but taking forced action leads to only one saying actually fitting ... consequences will never be the same. Honestly, tell me we're better off with the socialistic direction the country has taken since FDR

This thread = the pussification of WF Volume 1

Stand by your fucking convictions people, as a community we've had this right all along. I'll feed dozens of people that knock on my door looking to work for food but I'll be damned if I'm forced to allow parasites to continue sucking me dry without speaking up.

+rep

 

[erect]

Frank just had an easy one liner to quote, there's lots of soft positions stated here so I needed to vent. I've read your shit, I know you aren't' the problem.

 

[BlueYonder]

The poorest people I know are fat, dumb and very reproductive. They think that using government benefits is doing the best thing for their kids, and tell themselves they're taking good care of them by being on the dole. Having fewer kids they support themselves, using birth control or simply crossing their legs never occurs to them!

I'm not a scholar or a philosopher, and I don't know where benefits should begin or end. But I can see there's a mentality at play here, where people with this mindset do little to curb their reproduction and indulge themselves to no end. They know that government will pick up the tab.

 

[BigWill]

Both of those assumptions are incorrect. And it's the exact same system we have here, and it works pretty well for the most part. And yes, if a new set of rims is what they want, then they're going to make an effort to spend the money they're given efficiently, so they can eat, but still have enough for the rims. You can teach self sufficiency by giving someone money if they know they'll starve if they waste it.

Most "poor" people don't understand efficiency, budgeting or any of the sorts.

Contributing reason to why they are "poor"

 

[lukep]

Joe's argument totally overlooks the root of the problem; that poor people have such a bad:

A. Understanding of economics
B. Understanding of simple household budgeting
C. Set of Ethics that come with the above (i.e. welfare queens, foodstamp abusers, etc.)

An enormous, focused, FORCED education to prevent these three problems is exactly what it takes to derail the problems with socialism. Sadly our current civilization & laws (Not just of america, mind you, but we are the worst) would never allow that education to happen.

It's just too big, costly, restrictive, and most importantly, anti-corporate-agenda.

However without this huge undertaking, socialism simply and irrefutably does NOT work.