I honestly hope he does form a 3rd party. I know more liberals that will vote for him than Republicans.
Absofuckingloutly. There are SHITLOADS of sites and clubs out there by democrats with names like "Democrats against Obama" that would do anything short of bloodshed or voting republican (same thing to a democrat) to get Obama ousted. This gives them all the perfect solution.
I think in every election in every country fraud exist. The important question is if fraud actual change result of election.
Good point Sumit; As I said it's up between the Ph.Ds and the Journalists now... But at least we know that the journalists that would LOVE to print this sort of news already have it in their hands. (So it's really just up to the findings of the Ph.Ds in my opinion.
Not attacking him but it's worth remembering that RP would go after parts of the Constitution & Bill of Rights as well.
Could you please elaborate on how the countries' foremost Constitutionalist would "go after parts of the Constitution & Bill of Rights?" You sound like you've had one too many rotten mangoes.
Ron Paul is not going to run on a third party ticket. According to Time magazine, he's cooking up a deal with Romney...
Election 2012: Why Ron Paul May Cut a Deal With Mitt Romney | Swampland | TIME.com
That attack piece is utter TRASH and you lost several IQ points when you read it.
Paul is clearly going 3rd party at some point, and as the video above points out clearly, Paul has been very smartly positioning himself as the anti-Romney from the beginning. All this talk about an alliance is nothing more than speculation by a media wanting to hurt Paul's chances more.
He's a politician just like all the other politicians.
You see, the rEVOLution didn't just pick some guy they aligned with... This particular guy has a 35 Year congressional record of voting Against the establishment and status quo, WITHOUT FAIL. It's made him extremely unpopular to do so, yet his voting record is Flawless in voting to protect the original constitution.
Back in the 1970's he was famous already for shouting things like "
American government is too fat! Let's put it on a diet!" waaaaaaaay before bureaucracy and government waste were accepted as normal in the US. HE was the one to make them the norm. He's been the voice of reason in this country for multiple decades and the media to this day still refuses to give him credit for that... This article being more evidence.
So yeh, it would actually propel a RP 3rd party run. And who needs to actually be productive, right?
ME, goddammit!
You guys just don't seem to understand my stress. My todo list is turning into something that I don't think could even be outsourced to the entire country of India at this point... Clearly my addiction here on WF is keeping me from achieving billionaireship in the foreseeable future and if you one day see me go completely silent you know I've finally beaten this addiction and have gotten to work.
Don't worry tho, once I'm done working I'll likely be back. Billionaire status included. :thumbsup:
lol at thinking you can ever change an established power w/out force
Normally I'd agree, but the tightrope the GOP has been walking on here is made of spider web... The American election system, with its' change of power every 4 years, is a rare thing that makes it so each election things get "fragile" and right now we're in that stage... For instance we started off this election cycle with Rick Perry clearly getting the GOP nod... Until his infamous Oops moment HE was their goldenboy but they dropped him like a hot turd when he became the most idiotic soundbyte on TV.
Romney's not going to have an 'Oops moment,' but there is fragility here nonetheless, since afterall, Romney is not the establishment YET, Obama is.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it" -- On December 7th, 1941 Our great nation was attacked. Back then we had virtually No military strength. Were we the aggressors in the world?... No fucking way, no fucking how -- and we got it right up the ass.
Luke wake up -- this is not a a philosophical nirvana - this is real life with real carnivores. And RP lives in your nirvana.
Gerard, I can't believe we're going through this again. I remember distinctly we had this argument before, and we showed you video after video of Paul's foreign policy and it all showed that he would be the one guy that actually DEFENDED the USA, instead of making it vulnerable.
We showed you graphs of how the Military is almost fully behind Paul, we showed you proof of the US's wrongdoings that makes us susceptible to large amounts of Blowback, and we even showed you how exactly Paul plans to use all these soldiers at home, making our defenses by far the strongest from attack that any american president has ever considered.
I don't know if you're refusing to view our evidence or you've just got too much of the MSM's message stuck in your head in the way, but
the fact is that you don't understand Paul's stance on foreign policy.
So stop belittleing it! It alone will make you safer; no one else running at all has a plan that will do anything but make you LESS safe than you are right now.
2. Assuming there is voting fraud, which the majority of us probably already believes in, what are they gonna do about it? I dont know exactly what the GOP is, but you say its being put on trial. Do you believe that theyd sue it(?)? Arent there threads by you with some video of a fat old guy acknowledging some kind of fraud but instead of investigating or reversing it, they just roll with it?
Would be cool if you could elaborate on how this being discovered would reflect positively on ron pauls chances of being elected
Well, that is a good discussion to have, actually. The sequence of events, assuming the Ph.ds give the nod, will go to the Liberal media outlets first, and then the rest of the media outlets next because the story is too big to squash, and then the public will clearly be calling for justice.
At this point even I can't guess who's going to step up and be the plaintiff, and exactly what the venue will be... It's not like Judge Judy can handle this shit; clearly something equivalent to a federal judge WHO IS NOT A REPUBLICAN must be called forward to hear a case against the GOP.
Normally it would be up to the person most harmed by the crime to be the plaintiff. Sounds like Paul? Nope. Actually, it's the american public for having our votes made worthless. If Paul were to do this it could hurt his chances in the race anyway.
So we'll basically need to get a large group of people together (RP supporters will do) and file a case through a federal attorney of some sort to take the case to that judge. That takes money but RP ppl are famous for their moneybombs and all the best attorneys should be drooling over this after it hits the media.
Nailing down the defendants is easier; those who were in control of the polls in the precincts messed with... And their bosses.
The scary part is the timing, however; even if the case was filed today, it could go on well past the election and that's of course what the GOP would pull every string to ensure happens.
Interesting but nail-biting.
At least once the case is filed and the press has had their field day, the majority of Americans will start to believe that Vote Fraud for Romney is POSSIBLE. That in itself is kinda major.
This would be interesting. So, what would you all do if Romney got the nod and made Paul his running mate?
LOL! Romney couldn't make Paul grab him a beer. You must be on crack.
Paul would turn down a VP position so fast it would make your head spin. He'll clearly go 3rd party instead.
Corruption in America = Outrage
Corruption in Thailand = Win
Fact. But here's a more accurate way to look at it:
Corruption in America =
At the very top, affecting all of your liberties.
Corruption in Thailand =
At the very bottom (just public workers) affecting your wallet slightly at random times like when you get pulled over for a speeding ticket or buy a home... But since the average thai, who makes just a fraction of what you earn, can afford to live like that, YOU shouldn't have much problem at all affording it.
