Welfare... Fucking pisses me off

Wait times probably vary between provinces in Canada, seeing as how they have a fair amount of autonomy to manage their own programs.

Regarding Denmark, it is a pretty small country, so that probably had something to do with the wait time to see a specialist.
Hospitals-wise, Denmark is organized into five regions. The basic idea is that if you need to go to a hospital, you go to one of the ones your region runs. However, certain kinds of services may be so specialized that they’re not available in all regions, so the regions have reciprocity agreements with each other in which you might get sent to an out-of-region hospital. Denmark is also a pretty small country—a population larger than Minnesota but smaller than Wisconsin—so for some rare treatments you may need to go out of the country, and it’s possible to get the state to pay for that.
Also, sounds like they've taken some steps to deal with wait times:
Denmark also has a private hospital sector. Some of what happens in the private hospitals is that they provide specialized care under contract with the regions. In addition, the ruling center-right coalition introduced a law in 2002 saying that citizens may choose to go to a private hospital or clinic “if the waiting time for treatment exceeds two months and the chosen hospital has an agreement with the regions’ association regarding the offer for treatment.” In 2007 they expanded this initiative by reducing the waiting time to one month.
Health Care in Denmark | ThinkProgress
 


Slavery was never really abolished, it was socialized.

They systematically train people to accept welfare as their way of life. Anyone go to public school in the inner cities? There is no encouragement, they don't even teach addition and subtraction until 1st and 2nd grade.

When I moved to a suburb, I had no idea what half the stuff they were teaching in my new school was. My older school hadn't even taught anyone how to read a clock face, let alone multiplication or division. I saw school papers from a friend in kindergarten with that "advanced math" and couldn't believe they were taught all that so early.

It is drilled into your head from the beginning that it's a rigged game, you cannot succeed, you have to have connections to get anywhere in life, otherwise you are doomed to dead end jobs, if you are one of the lucky ones. They teach you that that's what your "realistic" plans should be. Don't shoot to high.

It's not surprising at all to me. The tax system alone is enough to discourage you. It's hard moving up from lower class to middle, to upper middle, and beyond. The cost of mobility between tax brackets (if you make just $1 beyond your current tax bracket) are:
Moving from 10% to 15%: $ 425.15
Moving from 15% to 25%: $ 7,350.10
Moving from 25% to 28%: $ 14,783.03
Moving from 28% to 33%: $ 34,144.05
Moving from 33% to 35%: $ 75,150.52

How does that not discourage someone who's growing a business? It really sucks when just making a few extra dollars costs you thousands of dollars, especially when it catches you off guard.

Every step of the way, government discourages us from self-reliance and independence. We have to pay a self-employment tax on top of other taxes just for working for ourselves. How is that even justifiable?

It's no wonder so many people just say "fuck it" and give up. It's also no wonder that most don't even try. Every single prime time television block is filled with get rich quick shows that teach people further that the only path to success if pure dumb luck. Ask anyone off the street what trial and error is, and they will either think its some kind of court, or some new law drama on a cable network.

After all that, the most successful self-made people in public are demonized for their success. If you worked for everything you have, starting from nothing, you are the bad guy. If you inherited your money and did nothing for it (and have the XX chromosome), you are celebrated. Just don't go do something stupid, like building upon that inheritance with anything beyond a reality tv show.

It is my understanding that moving up a tax bracket means you only pay the higher percentage on the amount over the limit. It is like this in the UK, I'd be very surprised if it was different in the US. Am I wrong?

Edit: Accordint to Deliguy I am wrong. What a load of BS!
 
It is my understanding that moving up a tax bracket means you only pay the higher percentage on the amount over the limit. It is like this in the UK, I'd be very surprised if it was different in the US. Am I wrong?

Edit: Accordint to Deliguy I am wrong. What a load of BS!

No...

Lets use play numbers

Tax Bracket 1 = $0-$10
Tax Bracket 2 = $10-$20

If I make $15, I pay $10 @ Tax Bracket 1 and $5 at Tax Bracket 2.

You'll never make less money because you've moved into a new tax bracket.
 
doesn't change the facts...lol at almost ANY mainstream news source. but i know the trendy lemmings think its only fox.

You go first
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It is my understanding that moving up a tax bracket means you only pay the higher percentage on the amount over the limit. It is like this in the UK, I'd be very surprised if it was different in the US. Am I wrong?

Edit: Accordint to Deliguy I am wrong. What a load of BS!

No, you're not wrong. This was already called out on the 1st page.
 
ITT: People learnin' bout them tax brackets.

Shit, people. That was the first thing I looked up a few years when I realized I was finally making a significant jump.

For a forum full of people that supposedly make money, there's a lot of people here that aren't very well-read on it.
 
Australia is about to have its own recession. If you don't see it, you're blind.

Retail is fucked but with the mining boom continuing and the rise of China + India, we can ride out any coming recession. Our government recently decided they would sell yellowcake to India and lifted the previous ban.

Things won't always be perfect but we've weathered all the bad shit over the past 5 years quite well compared to any other country and hopefully that will continue.
 
ITT: People learnin' bout them tax brackets.

Shit, people. That was the first thing I looked up a few years when I realized I was finally making a significant jump.

For a forum full of people that supposedly make money, there's a lot of people here that aren't very well-read on it.

It doesn't take an education to make money. You also aren't intelligent because you can make money. Want proof? Read around...
 
It doesn't take an education to make money. You also aren't intelligent because you can make money. Want proof? Read around...

Exactly. But that doesn't make it any less pathetic that people don't even read up on things that directly effect their financial situation.

Was just an observation. Nothing more.

A few years ago I started reading so much on it, I eventually realized the more I knew, the more I didn't know.

That's when I got a good accountant. The good thing is that I can speak to him at least semi-intelligently (as opposed to before, which would have consisted of little more than grunts and clicks).
 

Some things:

  • Mississippi doesn't have a minimum wage
  • Estimating the $60k family's health insurance at $16.5k, ascribing it to Medicaid benefits, and counting it as part of the "disposable income" of the minimum wage family is... dubious
  • Section 8 is pretty hard to get (years-long waiting lists)
  • SSI (mentioned, though not part of the calculation) is also hard to get (most people are rejected at the first hearing)