What do you do when...
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Here's the thing, when a advertiser puts out an offer
they should do a little more research on what they base their CPA off
to take into account, fraud, non converting leads.
If they have a target demographic and you're hitting that with your leads. It's the advertisers fault if they don't back out.
I'm getting really sick of networks and advertisers lately.
And it's a shame you had to post on here to get paid, shame on Azoogle
they should do a little more research on what they base their CPA off
to take into account, fraud, non converting leads.
If they have a target demographic and you're hitting that with your leads. It's the advertisers fault if they don't back out.
I'm getting really sick of networks and advertisers lately.
And it's a shame you had to post on here to get paid, shame on Azoogle
So why were you suddenly paid in full? I can't imagine it had something to do with this thread, did it? What'd they tell you
the funny thing is your AM will hit you up on AIM like hey bro can we get some more traffic, after something like this. I'd tell him to drive off a bridge.
The advertiser/publisher relationship is the most fucked up, lopsided thing in the business. We, as publishers, can spend a shitload of money on traffic. Most of that traffic won't convert. Can we "charge back" Google or our choice PPV network for non-converting traffic? Fuck no. Can advertisers chargeback publisher's for non-converting backend traffic? Yep. Sounds like being an advertiser is the place to be.
Agreed. The more of the total sales cycle you own, the better. Fewer crooks in the chain, fewer technology pieces to break, fewer headaches.
I think the fallout from the rebill era is going to be huge for networks. You have enough large affiliates who got VERY well capitalized during this era and know that in order to continue to grow/succeed on a higher level dealing with fun stupidity on the other end of the chain is just no longer lucrative- especially with the likely amounts of bad debt from rebills networks have on their books the concept of risk mitigation financially goes up in the air as well.
I've been saying there were laughbly too many networks for about 5 years now, sure some great gems have popped up in recent years but IMO ringtones, mortgage/debt and then diet/rebills have kept a large percentage of networks above water. And either something else comes along quickly <I don't think it will quick enough> or we're going to see survival of the fittest with a lot of long-time stragglers closing up shop.
The other problem are advertisers who think that as we're spending 5 figures a day on traffic we're too stupid to be able to piece together which sites are theirs. Enough of them have shot themselves in the foot too in my book.
2 years ago when the next boom hit I would've sucked it up and ran more traffic to them to capitalize. Now I'll just steal the idea and compete directly with them. Of course those who stood up for you and paid you out even when they didn't get paid without so much as a peep- (or a peep about it months later over drinks) - yeah , well pick your friends and build empires with them.
/drops mic
nitro_dee comes back to wickedfire and tells everybody that azoogle is not going to pay him after posting this thread. goodbye azoogle reputation.