Where would you live if not in the US?



bluechina: Yep, the cost of living is high but you can save 1000 dollar a month even if you get paid minimum wage in London. Here... You can barely stay alive from minimal wage. The maximum you can save with a normal wage is 100-200 dollars a month. Sucks monkey balls.
I don't make any money from the interwebzz at the moment so...
 
yeah indeed OP what country you're based..

I'm personally from Estonia, a lot of beautiful women, but so bloody cold weather and depressed people.. when the Economy Crises ruined my life decided to move to Malta.. one of the best decisions in my life so far...

Next stop - Thailand / Fidži / Caymen islands or something like that..
 
What bothers me really is that for example OP says such thing
"-Opportunities in London - high paying jobs ( sales, bar jobs ) , clubs, entertainment, cultural events, opportunity to perfect my english (unfortunately it's not my native language so I've had to learn it and I'm still perfecting it), lots of businessmen to socialize with. What else do you need in terms of opportunities? I'm open to suggestions."

So he probably looking for some very social way of living, making it a main point yet a pussy to name mother country, simply LMAO at all of that:)
 
I think you're really naive when it comes to the so called high paying jobs in London. The cost of living is very high too. Besides if you're in Internet Marketing, why are you interested in a bar job?

Find it very funny too, something tells me OP is some "nice guy" geek dreaming about play boy / businessman life. Nothing wrong with it, but just to make a point;)
 
I always laugh at the anti American idiots. haha

They travel for a couple of weeks and everything seems so much better. I lived, yeah spent more than a week vacation, in a few other countries. That is besides visiting many more and the US is one of the best countries to live in.

Please don't come back when you find out your new promised land isn't what you thought.
 
I understand. If I felt I had no hope of ever living in the United States, I'd probably try to convince myself it wasn't that cool, also.
 
^Quite the opposite for me, kingosp, I'm stuck here just wanting to live many of the places I've visited. (Although I did live in Bangkok for a while; even with all that heat it was preferable!)
 
^Quite the opposite for me, kingosp, I'm stuck here just wanting to live many of the places I've visited. (Although I did live in Bangkok for a while; even with all that heat it was preferable!)

Obviously when you were living in Long Beach you should have spent more time over here on the other side of the Vincent Thomas bridge!
 
Oh, I spent a lot of my time in San Pedro and the other communities in that direction too. Del Cerro Park, up on top of the hill there was my favorite spot in SoCal. I also had a season pass to Disneyland, spend some good time at the plaza @ Hollywood & Highland, (Wife loves hotpot... Only place in America I know that serves it) and of course Santa Monica pier and promenade were awesome when we could brave the traffic all the way up there.

Don't get me wrong, a lot of stuff here is great. I'm happy to have access to things like hollywood but I'd never live there... It's way to dirty, crowded, and you can't get everything you need there anyway.

It, like most of America, is just not refined. Civilization on this continent just isn't old enough to be fully refined yet. Perhaps in another 100 years.

(If it avoids a major revolution and problems with population explosions and global warming...)
 
Lets end this right now. Top 3 destinations to live outside the U.S:
1. Somalia- For it's sandy beaches and clear blue water
2. Afghanistan- for great hiking trails and cave exploration
3. North Korea- For it's liberal ideas
 
Lets end this right now. Top 3 destinations to live outside the U.S:
1. Somalia- For it's sandy beaches and clear blue water
2. Afghanistan- for great hiking trails and cave exploration
3. North Korea- For it's liberal ideas
LOL. -But Not a very effective way of ending it, if you asked me.


pappajohn56 said:
...there are good places to live everywhere. But dismissing the entire US? No way.
Thanks to Bizousoft, over in this thread, we now have a good example of why one could dismiss the entire country.

Of course I wouldn't suggest it for everyone, but if you had the option to RAISE YOUR CHILDREN in any country in the world, would you really choose the USA over a more advanced society like Norway?

Note: The reason I'm shifting focus to raising children is because I'm trying to get at which society is better, and in the long run... Not just which can fulfill your personal desires for guns and netflix at the moment. ;)
 
bluechina: Yep, the cost of living is high but you can save 1000 dollar a month even if you get paid minimum wage in London.

Absolutely not. You are in for a big shock. If all you do is work, then you'll maybe be able to save £200-300 a month on minimum wage. If you live in a shithole and only eat the most basic food, that is.
 
Of course I wouldn't suggest it for everyone, but if you had the option to RAISE YOUR CHILDREN in any country in the world, would you really choose the USA over a more advanced society like Norway?

Note: The reason I'm shifting focus to raising children is because I'm trying to get at which society is better, and in the long run... Not just which can fulfill your personal desires for guns and netflix at the moment. ;)

Of course I would, because in Norway or Sweden I'd be looked at as a lesser person for being an immigrant. "Advanced" society = xenophobic?
 
Of course I would, because in Norway or Sweden I'd be looked at as a lesser person for being an immigrant. "Advanced" society = xenophobic?
I just don't get this fear of yours at their "xenophobia" as you call it...

I've spent 2 weeks in Oslo and they might have thought less of my lack of Norwegian, but nobody ever said anything about it... A very warm and friendly race, like you'd expect ultra-liberals to be. ;)

They have as much right to keep lesser-desireable folk out as anyone, and you can be pretty sure that the law to do so is in place for the sake of keeping out those that would destabilize them... Not for such a sad reason as racism or fear of the unknown.

We should all have such rules in all our countries... Makes life better for everyone in it by far.

...And keep in mind that _I_ want IN, so I've got nothing at all to gain by supporting their right to do so, and everything to lose. Checking the wikiP entry on it, I'm still somewhat hopeful. You just gotta stay in the country (somehow) for 7 out of 10 years and then you can apply to be a citizen there.
 
I just don't get this fear of yours at their "xenophobia" as you call it...

I've spent 2 weeks in Oslo and they might have thought less of my lack of Norwegian, but nobody ever said anything about it... A very warm and friendly race, like you'd expect ultra-liberals to be. ;)

They have as much right to keep lesser-desireable folk out as anyone, and you can be pretty sure that the law to do so is in place for the sake of keeping out those that would destabilize them... Not for such a sad reason as racism or fear of the unknown.

We should all have such rules in all our countries... Makes life better for everyone in it by far.

...And keep in mind that _I_ want IN, so I've got nothing at all to gain by supporting their right to do so, and everything to lose. Checking the wikiP entry on it, I'm still somewhat hopeful. You just gotta stay in the country (somehow) for 7 out of 10 years and then you can apply to be a citizen there.

Two weeks does not equate to moving there. It's like the saying in the South, the difference between a Yankee and a Damn Yankee is that a Damn Yankee is pulling a moving trailer.

Please, it's plenty of racism in Norway and Sweden. "Black metal" is a racist genre of music that stems from scandinavian nations. Sweden is a European hotbed of Neo-Nazism:

Sweden is home to several white supremacist and neo-Nazi organizations, including:
Legion Wasa
Nationalsocialistisk Front (National Socialist Front)
Svenska Motståndsrörelsen - (Swedish Resistance Movement)
Vitt Ariskt Motstånd (White Aryan Resistance)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/world/europe/20sweden.html

"Swedish Anti-Immigration Party Claims [Parliament] Seats"

On top of that, an in-article quote:

"Unlike nearby Denmark and Norway, where populist anti-immigration parties have been successful for years"

Xenophobia. Racism. Anti-immigrant.

How about this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Sweden

"After Germany and Austria, Sweden has the highest rate of antisemitic incidents in Europe."

"A government study in 2006 estimated that 15% of Swedes agree with the statement: "The Jews have too much influence in the world today""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Sweden

"In December 2010, the Jewish human rights organization Simon Wiesenthal Center issued a travel advisory concerning Sweden, advising Jews to express "extreme caution" when visiting the southern parts of the country due to an increase in verbal and physical harassment of Jewish citizens in the city of Malmö."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Norway

"In 2010, the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation reported that antisemitic attitudes were prevalent at some Norwegian schools."
 
Two weeks does not equate to moving there. It's like the saying in the South, the difference between a Yankee and a Damn Yankee is that a Damn Yankee is pulling a moving trailer.
:D Awesome way to put that.

I'd probably move to Brazil for a few years and then bounce around South America some. I'm about to be a historian specializing in South American modern history and would love to spend a suitable amount of time on the continent.
 
"A government study in 2006 estimated that 15% of Swedes agree with the statement: "The Jews have too much influence in the world today""

I for one tend to agree that "Israel" has far too much influence on American policy and therefore too much world influence. Does that make me anti-semitic? That is the problem when you touch upon the topic of anti-semitism today, it is easily confused with negative feelings towards Israel, opinions which are not the same at all.
 
I for one tend to agree that "Israel" has far too much influence on American policy and therefore too much world influence. Does that make me anti-semitic? That is the problem when you touch upon the topic of anti-semitism today, it is easily confused with negative feelings towards Israel, opinions which are not the same at all.

The question was asked if "The Jews", not "Israel". It's pretty obvious. Being against Israel's policies does not make you anti-semitic. Hating Jews, does.