Who The Fuck is Voting For Rick Santorum?

[gbmack]

Romney could be the poster child for Washington politics. Watch the video above about his flip flops.

He passed a government health care plan, supported the bailout, raised taxes, etc. - but somehow he has convinced people that he is the opposite of Obama?




Here's this picture one more time :

Government health care is a good thing. There's a reason Canada and all of Europe have it. I don't even have to explain this.

The bailout? That was absolutely necessary, and it's hard to believe that people still condemn it. If the bailout didn't happen, many of the major banks would have failed. Loss of confidence and failure would have followed, and we literally could have repeated the Great Depression. During the beginning of the Great Depression, the government took a laissez-faire approach, and the money supply decreased all the way through 1935. The money supply only regained 1929 levels by the end of 1938 after a very late effort to reverse this big mistake. The result was that unemployment skyrocketed to 25% and we had huge deflation. It's only because we live in such a cushy existence these days that we continue to spew media-fed rage that the bailout only benefited a small class of the elite, when in fact it spared the entire country a calamity.

So many people have been suckered into thinking that the Obama's huge deficits were a result of the bailout. This is false. Most of the banks are being forced to repay, with large interest added.

As governor, Mitt Romney cut the Massachusetts deficit from $3 billion to $300 million. He also decreased unemployment by about 1%.
Governorship of Mitt Romney - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Obama, on the other hand, has a terrible record of increasing the deficit from $7 trillion to $15 trillion, and increasing unemployment from 5% to 8%.

Obama is not at all like Romney.

 

[Mightier]

The bailout? That was absolutely necessary, and it's hard to believe that people still condemn it. If the bailout didn't happen, many of the major banks would have failed.

TARP was Bush, not Obama.

The Republicans will go after Obama over the stimulus packages and the GM bailout, but TARP was their own doing.

 

[Kiopa_Matt]

Luke, the only chance RP has of sitting in the White House is at the head of 500,000 citizens armed to the teeth with a couple million firearms, while they storm the Whitehouse, and simply take it back. And I doubt it will happen, but nonetheless do believe it's somewhat in the realm of possibility, hence why above I said:

If anything, this election season will be the time where people become so unbelievably pissed off at the piss poor choices they have as to who will lead their country, you'll see some actual civil rebellion. Then again, the propaganda machine in the US is pretty strong, so probably not.

Really, look at the choices. Obama is a corporate & military shill, Romney is even worse, then Gingrich and Santorum are both total morons. Really? This is the best we can do for the leader of the free world, and most powerful nation on earth? Holy fucken hell we're in trouble!

PS. RP isn't more intelligent than Obama. His heart's just in a better place.

 

[negro2k]

Oh yeah; one other thing: Paul is 1000x smarter than Obama. He'll make the president look like a lying hypocrite in any debate you put them in. Every single time.

 

[lukep]

Luke, the only chance RP has of sitting in the White House is at the head of 500,000 citizens armed to the teeth with a couple million firearms, while they storm the Whitehouse, and simply take it back.

All three of the following would have to fail for this to be so:

1. Paul's support growth passes the tipping point where the media can't propagandize fast enough to stop Paul from actually winning all states forward...

2. Paul's Delegate strategy works and even if he doesn't win many states he still controls the nomination process in Tampa...

3. The serious fans keep overcoming the corrupt GOP officials trying to fix the vote for Romney like they did in Maine, allowing a big boost in growth once the world sees he can win states.


Why do you doubt all three? Isn't it possible one of these 3 could happen?

Or do you think it's possible that Ron can waltz into tampa with most of the delegates and the GOP fixes the vote there somehow?

From what I understand they are all in the room and vote within sight of each other for that. Would be very hard to fix.

RP isn't more intelligent than Obama. His heart's just in a better place.

Obama still professes Keynesian economics. The ONLY reason the public doesn't think that shit is retarded is because the media has never allowed an Austrian economist up on the stage to explain it to the public.

 

[ComradeGulper]

Santorum is easily the most mentally deficient of the current three Know Nothing candidates, but Romney's greasy aristocratic persona marks him as the most obnoxious. Ron Paul will self-destruct in orbit just like Nader and Wallace before him.

 

[Fastb]

Santorum is scary. The only government more oppressive than an Islamic theocracy is a Christian theocracy - I don't want the extremists running anything here.

 

[Rexibit]

Santorum is scary. The only government more oppressive than an Islamic theocracy is a Christian theocracy - I don't want the extremists running anything here.

You are confusing religious teachings with personal execution of those teachings. Like any guideline, it's all about personal interpretation.

Your statement above is like saying, "Joe killed my sister, every American must die because I don't want them in the world after what he did."

You forget, the Constitution is largely based on Christian theocracy. Surely if you uphold the Constitution and feel it should be protected, you are in fact supporting all of the Christian ideals within it.

You can't have one without the other.

 

[barman]

Santorum is a massive cunt.

Obama, barring any major major fuckup, will win reelection by a landslide. I would like to see Paul go all the way though because he opens up the discussion.

 

[Mightier]

You forget, the Constitution is largely based on Christian theocracy. Surely if you uphold the Constitution and feel it should be protected, you are in fact supporting all of the Christian ideals within it.

You can't have one without the other.

Nothing you've said in the above post is remotely true. While some (not all) of the FF were Christian, they were deeply aware of the dangers religion posed to an organized state. Most were deists, but most were also Freemasons who firmly believed that it was a person's right to choose who and what to worship.

One choice quote, straight from the horse's mouth:

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity ...

Most of the Constitution is founded on English Common Law and don't go trying to argue that English Common Law derived from Christianity, because it didn't and the Founding Fathers certainly didn't think it did.

TJ:

"For we know that the common law is that system of law which was introduced by the Saxons on their settlement in England, and altered from time to time by proper legislative authority from that time to the date of Magna Charta, which terminates the period of the common law. . . This settlement took place about the middle of the fifth century. But Christianity was not introduced till the seventh century; the conversion of the first christian king of the Heptarchy having taken place about the year 598, and that of the last about 686. Here then, was a space of two hundred years, during which the common law was in existence, and Christianity no part of it."

 

[Fastb]

You are confusing religious teachings with personal execution of those teachings. Like any guideline, it's all about personal interpretation.

You can't have one without the other.

Not much left to interpretation when the man openly states that the activities of the government should be based on Christian beliefs (or more specifically his conservative interpretation of them).

The FF's never intended for the Federal government to decide who has access to birth control, abortions, who you have relationships with, what vices you have, etc.

Some Santorum quotes:

"Our civil laws have to comport with a higher law: God's law."

"We have Judeo-Christian values that are based on biblical truth. ... And those truths don't change just because people's attitudes may change."

"the Founders sought well-ordered liberty through 'moral' cultivation of citizens"

I'm not in any way a supporter myself of gay rights, however, he has asserted that the right to privacy “does not exist,” and compared the campaign against same-sex marriage to the war on terror.

Summary: I would rather have four more years of what we have now, this the worst leader in our history (yes, Obama is even worse than Jimmy Carter), than to have ANYONE in Washington D.C. elected to be my moral compass.

You have two choices: bad and incompetent (4 more years of gridlock) or bad and zealous (Rick and the conservative friends 'cultivate' your lifestyle based on their belief system).

 

[ComradeGulper]

You have two choices: bad and incompetent (4 more years of gridlock) or bad and zealous (Rick and the conservative friends 'cultivate' your lifestyle based on their belief system).

The gridlock exists because of the massively polarized, partisan nature of present day politics. To charge this to Obama is to massively misinterpret the past 50 years of American political history, going straight back to the time when LBJ went against the Dixie Democrats to pass the Civil Rights Act. That is the point at which the Solid South went over to the GOP, and most of the moderate Republicans ended up as Democrats. Since then, the two parties have stabilized and polarized, making bipartisan cooperation increasingly difficult, as each regards the other as the ideological enemy, scarcely less of a threat than an openly declared foreign enemy such as Saddam or Osama.

 

[Moxie]

The bailout? That was absolutely necessary, and it's hard to believe that people still condemn it. If the bailout didn't happen, many of the major banks would have failed. Loss of confidence and failure would have followed, and we literally could have repeated the Great Depression. During the beginning of the Great Depression, the government took a laissez-faire approach,

Five Myths About the Great Depression - WSJ.com


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15UHyHJXG9Y]Authors Forum: Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed - YouTube[/ame]

As governor, Mitt Romney cut the Massachusetts deficit from $3 billion to $300 million.

Obama could also lower the debt (in the short term) by doing things like making businesses pay 20% more to the government, but the same people who support Romney would of course give Obama hell for it.


PolitiFact Texas | Rick Perry says that as governor, Mitt Romney raised business taxes 20 percent in Massachusetts

Our ruling

By the time Romney’s term as governor was ending, Massachusetts businesses were ponying up about 20 percent more in tax revenue due to actions he approved.

He also decreased unemployment by about 1%.

Nationwide unemployment went down by 1.5% during that time period. According to your wiki link, Massachusetts was 47th out of the 50 states in job growth for those years.

Obama, on the other hand, has a terrible record of increasing the deficit from $7 trillion to $15 trillion,

Obama might have been president in 2009, but the budget for that year was passed before that. This article is from the other day :

Debt Has Climbed $4.47T Since Obama Released First Budget

and increasing unemployment from 5% to 8%.

Obama took office the end of January 2009, when it was 7.8%. It was 8.3% for January 2012.

Obama is not at all like Romney.

 

[BeerNuts]

Thought I would bump this with the main story on Drudge right now.. we are doomed.

SANTORUM'S SATAN WARNING
Tue Feb 21 2012 09:27:20 ET


"Satan has his sights on the United States of America!" Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum has declared.

"Satan is attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition."

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The former senator from Pennsylvania warned in 2008 how politics and government are falling to Satan.

"This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country - the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age?"

"He attacks all of us and he attacks all of our institutions."

Santorum made the provocative comments to students at Ave Maria University in Florida.

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The White House contender described how Satan is even taking hold of some religions.

"We look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it."

Developing...

 

[lukep]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgNJBdTaKE8]Ron Paul Ad - Rick Santorum a Conservative? - YouTube[/ame]

I feel like Paul should have spent this money against Romney instead, but this was fun to watch nonetheless.

 

[ryanjm]

If Santorum wins the primary, it not only proves that the hardcore right are fucking nutcases, it will make the election a landslide victory for Obama.

But I see why Repubs don't like Romney. In every debate/speech he comes off as out of touch with "the little people." It's like he's had a silver spoon in his hand so long he not only doesn't know what it's like to struggle to pay bills, he doesn't even know anyone that struggles. That makes his priorities of what needs to be done with this country pretty fucked.

Then you've got Gingrich who is morally bankrupt, and just about every repub that has worked with the guy for any length of time says they can't support him for president. That says A LOT. Oh and moon bases.

The only interesting candidate is Paul, and he's unelectable as well simply due to a lack of charisma and ability to distill complicated subjects like the Fed into something the average person can understand. He starts ranting about the evil of the Fed, and most people still don't have a clue what the Fed even is.

Obama has already won this election unless the Repubs go with the nuclear option of throwing someone else into the mix at the convention who hasn't even run yet.

 

[lukep]

The only interesting candidate is Paul, and he's unelectable...

 

[jenzkc]

I'm going to go off topic.... but,
What's wrong with Romney?

Romney is a baller as a businessman. He's currently making $20 mil+ a year, and he has tons of business experience in the real world. If elected president, can he fix the U.S. economy? Maybe. As long as Congress does what he wants and he doesn't get mindfucked by Washington politics, then Romney could make a decent president. The last thing we need is another 4 years of Obama.

mormonism.

obama's spending, regulations, etc i can deal with. religion, not so much.

rick santorum looks like a faggot who rapes young boys.

 

[pinchyfingers]

Santorum is the only candidate who might be even gayer than Obama. I don't think Obama is really in the closet gay, though. Obama is probably comfortable with being gay, while Santorum seems very self-hating about his homosexuality.

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[ShadowCaster]