who's watching the state of the union speech?
- Thread starter consigliere
- Start date
this guy says he hasn't raised taxes, but he forgot to mention inflation and corporate taxes (which result in lower wages), etc.......
Lol liberals.
"Well I do not accept second place for the United States of America."
I just wish Ron Paul could talk to 30-50 million people at one time.
What Obama has always had is a big stage, and a great speech. Listening to him you can't deny he's a great orator - one of the best I've heard in a long time.
But what the average person doesn't understand is that with every new big spending bill it's just creating more short term government jobs and a larger defecit that continue to make the United States less and less attractive to foreign markets looking to invest.
Personally I see everyone so happy, jumping up and down, pointing and hollering, but the Americans sitting at home without a job - seemingly without a hope - won't connect to all this mind-blowing spending to create jobs they know won't be given to them.
It's all hype, it's always been hype, and it's done nothing but give the stock market, the housing markets, and worst of all the American people a false sense of security. Only when government doesn't have the back of Americans will the real bottom be felt and we can finally start growing properly again.
Anyway that's my take.
What Obama has always had is a big stage, and a great speech. Listening to him you can't deny he's a great orator - one of the best I've heard in a long time.
But what the average person doesn't understand is that with every new big spending bill it's just creating more short term government jobs and a larger defecit that continue to make the United States less and less attractive to foreign markets looking to invest.
Personally I see everyone so happy, jumping up and down, pointing and hollering, but the Americans sitting at home without a job - seemingly without a hope - won't connect to all this mind-blowing spending to create jobs they know won't be given to them.
It's all hype, it's always been hype, and it's done nothing but give the stock market, the housing markets, and worst of all the American people a false sense of security. Only when government doesn't have the back of Americans will the real bottom be felt and we can finally start growing properly again.
Anyway that's my take.
ftc hater you are right. in fact, most of that stimulus money goes to "administration" and doesnt do shit to help local economies.
Exactly.
It really is disheartening.
It'll be interesting to see the publics view point. I have a feeling they can see past all of this.
Did anyone catch what he just said "all happened before he walked in the door"?
I'm not an Obama fan, but you guys have to admit Bush was Big Government guy who increased the size of government a hell of a lot, as are most modern Republicans- at least those in power. Ron Pauls are the minority.
I'm a libertarian- I've been calling out everyone in politics forever. A lot of people are hypocrites who just care which party is in power but dont actually care about principle or what actually goes on. A lot of people who were silent or at least passively supportive of people like Bush will get on Obama for the same bullshit. To me, it's fuck them all- there's not a major politician ( meaning with any kind of real national profile,etc) who isn't full of shit, power hungry, and interested in growing government ( it's good job security if you are a career "public servant). And to an extent that goes for everyone ( even some so-called "heroes") who depends on taxpayers to make a living.
I'm not an Obama fan, but you guys have to admit Bush was Big Government guy who increased the size of government a hell of a lot, as are most modern Republicans- at least those in power. Ron Pauls are the minority.
I'm a libertarian- I've been calling out everyone in politics forever. A lot of people are hypocrites who just care which party is in power but dont actually care about principle or what actually goes on. A lot of people who were silent or at least passively supportive of people like Bush will get on Obama for the same bullshit. To me, it's fuck them all- there's not a major politician ( meaning with any kind of real national profile,etc) who isn't full of shit, power hungry, and interested in growing government ( it's good job security if you are a career "public servant). And to an extent that goes for everyone ( even some so-called "heroes") who depends on taxpayers to make a living.
I hope they do see past it but I don't have a lot of confidence in the majority of americans.
Im not watching.
I lost my health insurance coverage (long story) and I'm still HEAVILY against giving out free insurance. I'll WORK and pay for it like everyone else. Now thanks to dipshit I have to pay for all the uninsured people to get health care. Not raising taxes? Well that money's not coming out of your ass so....
I lost my health insurance coverage (long story) and I'm still HEAVILY against giving out free insurance. I'll WORK and pay for it like everyone else. Now thanks to dipshit I have to pay for all the uninsured people to get health care. Not raising taxes? Well that money's not coming out of your ass so....
I've been scrolling through Twitter and it's basically 50/50 in the few hundred tweets I went through.
On a side note who does he think is the lifeblood of the economy? He said he's only going to raise taxes on those making over 250k a year.
Hello - that's not a lot of money now and once we get a little bit of hyperinflation going thanks to all this play money out there it's not going to be a lot at all.
The rich provide jobs to the middle class and fund the lazy lower class. The incompetence and failure to have any logic amazes me. On both sides of the table.
Yeah, just had to talk to my parents about that - even with exempting 1 on their taxes they owe an additional 25,000 this year. Fucking pathetic.
Really? Because I was under the impression that nothing passed. Please link me to the super secret free health care plan.
Well, I just made an ass of myself on a mistype.
Was trying to say *if / when* his health care passes it's going to cost someone money. That equates to higher taxes.
In my rush of stupidity and multitasking I put my foot in my mouth. This flame was much deserved.