Why aren't you running a tor relay node?
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If the benefit has nothing to do with me, then why again should I do it?
I see no greater good in this at all, which is the whole problem.
When I give to charity, I can see the path of greater good and who it helps. When I help an old lady across the street or donate to my church.. I know whats going on. Even when I buy an angel tree for Christmas or give money to erect a safe place, I know the good its doing.
Whit this tor relay/exit shit, I see no such thing.
Care to enlighten? What greater good is going on with hiding traffic through relays and exits?
This whole article is pretty good:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/7-things-you-should-know-about-tor
Also,
https://www.torproject.org/about/torusers.html.en
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- People in oppressed countries can bypass their internet censorship blocks and communicate with the world
- People can use the internet (the very thing that makes you a living) anonymously
- Spies & Whistleblowers use it
- People can use it to access websites that only exist on the tor network.
Is none of that important to you? Its certainly important for the future of the internet.
I can see some good in this, but Im not worried about the those who live in oppressed countries. Yeah, that's selfish and shit and I know it. however I speak the truth of what I feel which is more than most people do. I spend 0 time thinking of people in other countries unless my ads run in those countries.. and at this moment none of them do. Call me an asshole all you want, but I spend no time thinking about these people.
While I think it is horrible that I realize I never think of other people in other countries, its reality. Maybe I should change and wake up, but I am not sure a Tor node will fix that.
I think countries that do this are horrible, but I recognize this is NOT my fight, at least not today.
This is bad for business, at least mine. Yes the internet makes me a living, but it does so to the tune of running ads and targeting the right people. If they are all browsing anonymously, I can't make a living online and neither can you. If people like me can't run ads and make money, it causes a domino effect down the line and people who are web developer and programmer will feel the pinch too.
Google is already fucking this up in BOTH the organic and PPC side of things and it is causing a huge headache for not only my clients but lots of other agencies as well that are having to adopt to having their data swiped from them. If Tor comes alone and makes it to where I can't determine who is who on my media buys, cookies, retargeting, etc.. then I can say for sure I don't support it.
But spies and whistelblowers were doing their thing before Tor. I see no real need in setting a node up based on this alone.
And what good could this possibly be? Silk Road? Spies and Whistleblowers? Child porn? Anyone hiding a site on the Tor network is either doing something wrong, tin foil hatter, or a mix of other things that I disagree with to begin with.
If people want to post their country's oppression on Tor, fine.. I give them a pass, but I don't see a need for me to set up a Node for them, yet.
I think SOME of those things are important with a focus on the word SOME. The undesirables it brings along with it far outweigh what i consider important.
I think a different answer to solve the "good" problems that Tor fixes is in need and in order. What those answers are, I don't know yet.
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While the % of your users using tor is tiny, they can still have cookies set, view ads, and etc. using the tor Browser.
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While the % of your users using tor is tiny, they can still have cookies set, view ads, and etc. using the tor Browser.
The US government has developed lots of things, so what? It doesn't mean they have control over it.
In other news:
Comcast Declares War on Tor? - Deep Dot Web
My noobish understanding is that bridges are non-listed Tor nodes, mostly used by people in countries where Tor is blocked.
Most people don't need to use them. If you're creating a node, you don't want to make a bridge unless you're working with someone that supplies a list of bridges to people in countries where they are needed, because no one will be able to connect to it.
If people have javascript enabled, then they may as well not run TOR so this point still stands.
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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/09/tor-challenge-inspires-1635-tor-relays
Tor Challenge Inspires 1,635 Tor Relays
Tor Challenge Inspires 1,635 Tor Relays
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^ JS is disabled by default with TorBrowser when you install it. A user would have to enable it themselves. The exploit only affected people using Windows.
This vuln was exploited by the FBI (Magento) when they took over the FreedomHosting server to catch people browsing CP real IP addresses, hostname, and MAC address. One of the few times the FBI has admitted to basically using an exploit kit or 0day exploit (this would be illegal if a citizen did it and you would be violating the CFAA).
Here is a more technical explanation of it;
The FBI TOR Exploit - InfoSec Institute
FBI admits to exploiting Tor to take down child porn behemoth
This vuln was exploited by the FBI (Magento) when they took over the FreedomHosting server to catch people browsing CP real IP addresses, hostname, and MAC address. One of the few times the FBI has admitted to basically using an exploit kit or 0day exploit (this would be illegal if a citizen did it and you would be violating the CFAA).
Here is a more technical explanation of it;
The FBI TOR Exploit - InfoSec Institute
FBI admits to exploiting Tor to take down child porn behemoth
