Why do people always hate on clickbank?
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Not as bad as it used to be I'll say that much.
And it's because for the most part this is a CPA board, where somehow it's more ethical and cool to push berries, zips, get scrubbed, and fucked by the networks than to push digital products.
Real reason is that it's rare you find someone with a hot product outside the MMO niche, and that's what ppl here harp on - with just cause imo. It's the 95% that create "I made $35,608.05 in 3 weeks, and you can too - $8 buy now" programs, which have unfortunately given the whole network a shitty name.
Don't worry, WF is starting to open up to CB more, and there are more CB'ers here than you think even if they don't admit it publically, just never ever try to launch your make monies ebooks here and you should be ok.
EDIT: You did good for a first campaign, just hang on a lil' to ensure you don't get refunds (customers get 60 days and if you pushed any 'makemoneyonline' shit you WILL have refunds).
And it's because for the most part this is a CPA board, where somehow it's more ethical and cool to push berries, zips, get scrubbed, and fucked by the networks than to push digital products.
Real reason is that it's rare you find someone with a hot product outside the MMO niche, and that's what ppl here harp on - with just cause imo. It's the 95% that create "I made $35,608.05 in 3 weeks, and you can too - $8 buy now" programs, which have unfortunately given the whole network a shitty name.
Don't worry, WF is starting to open up to CB more, and there are more CB'ers here than you think even if they don't admit it publically, just never ever try to launch your make monies ebooks here and you should be ok.
EDIT: You did good for a first campaign, just hang on a lil' to ensure you don't get refunds (customers get 60 days and if you pushed any 'makemoneyonline' shit you WILL have refunds).
Yeah no rebill products on Clickbank :conehead::1zhelp::sadcrying4::crap::banana_sml::banana_sml::banana_sml:
arty-smiley-004::disgust::laughing-smiley-007:laughing-smiley-007:1orglaugh::ugone2far::ugone2far::xmas-smiley-010::food-smiley-010::repuke::rasta::rasta::yin-yang:So far I had more success with CB than with CPA, many will laugh, but that's it
Epc's decent if you have targeted traffic (assuming there is no fucking way you would even try untargeted with CPS model), cause you can find something with 2-3% conversion rate. No that shitty 0.005 for some offers you may know about
Solid payouts.
People buy that stuff.
You are not in the range of usual CPA verticals, shitton of CB products out there...fuck, you can even always create yours and promote it if there is demand. You can't be shaved
There is no shit "you know this leads didn't backed out...so fuck off"
Lot of places to advertise without problems including adwords if you can be on top of their policy trends, that's if you affiliate, and 0 problems if you are direct owner with non-scummy shit.
Owners of solid products give real support to their products including CR on any media they tested, I have hard times to get that info on CPA things per media channel. Everyone is so fucking secret
Less competition than you can imagine, cause there are tons of products!
And CB earned about 1.68B dollars to date, probably much more than all CPA networks combined, cause anyone can start one, unlikely in CPS world there are CJ, SAS, LS, CB, PDC, E-Junkie, Regnow, Plimus, maybe somebody else...and that's it
Etc...etc... etc
P.S. Op, adwords or FB ?
Epc's decent if you have targeted traffic (assuming there is no fucking way you would even try untargeted with CPS model), cause you can find something with 2-3% conversion rate. No that shitty 0.005 for some offers you may know about
Solid payouts.
People buy that stuff.
You are not in the range of usual CPA verticals, shitton of CB products out there...fuck, you can even always create yours and promote it if there is demand. You can't be shaved
There is no shit "you know this leads didn't backed out...so fuck off"
Lot of places to advertise without problems including adwords if you can be on top of their policy trends, that's if you affiliate, and 0 problems if you are direct owner with non-scummy shit.
Owners of solid products give real support to their products including CR on any media they tested, I have hard times to get that info on CPA things per media channel. Everyone is so fucking secret
Less competition than you can imagine, cause there are tons of products!
And CB earned about 1.68B dollars to date, probably much more than all CPA networks combined, cause anyone can start one, unlikely in CPS world there are CJ, SAS, LS, CB, PDC, E-Junkie, Regnow, Plimus, maybe somebody else...and that's it
Etc...etc... etc
P.S. Op, adwords or FB ?
Yeah no rebill products on Clickbank :conehead::1zhelp::sadcrying4::crap::banana_sml::banana_sml::banana_sml:
Mmm...well, at least they are sort of Netflix, Lovefim, some membership book store type, not that CPA diet rebills
The hate on ClickBank mainly comes from the fact that their marketplace is filled with scammy get rich quick ebooks.
However their are some good products amongst all the shit. Wear gloves.
And there are plenty of rebills on CB.
You are telling like there is no bizops in CPA which are waaay scammier
There are scam opportunities all over the web. CB has more shit than value, but I already agreed that their are some nuggets there.
I answered the OP's question of why their is so much distaste for clickbank. I never stated they were "scammier" than any other website.
Most of the CB products have become saturated. Its not like the old days where you can literally find good low competition keywords with high search volume. Also at that time PPC was very cheap. Now we have a situaltion where most of the Gurus are encouraging their students to promote CB stuffs. now we are faced with more competion than ever before. Its time we look for a new avenues.
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Are you serious ? There a shit load of launches of products in untapped niches. As I said you can create your product simply by researching google volume for some untaped keyword. LOL at you. CPA much more competitive cause of limited choice of verticals, it will better maybe though. Of course if you want to be #1 for "make money online" it will be hard
I have sold ebook guide for some game this summer on FB and was way profitable when promoting CPA game offers which was probably even shaved (you never know).
Heck...just look at OP who made close to 1000% ROI
Are you serious ? There a shit load of launches of products in untapped niches. As I said you can create your product simply by researching google volume for some untaped keyword. LOL at you. CPA much more competitive cause of limited choice of verticals, it will better maybe though. Of course if you want to be #1 for "make money online" it will be hard
I have sold ebook guide for some game this summer on FB and was way profitable when promoting CPA game offers which was probably even shaved (you never know).
Heck...just look at OP who made close to 1000% ROI
Never understood it really.
As far as I'm concerned Clickbank rocks.
Yeah people see long ass copy and think it's bullshit... well if that's bullshit then most CPA landers+offers are ultra bullshit machines.
It's just a different angle to get the same result: $$$$
As far as I'm concerned Clickbank rocks.
Yeah people see long ass copy and think it's bullshit... well if that's bullshit then most CPA landers+offers are ultra bullshit machines.
It's just a different angle to get the same result: $$$$
Your answer still doesn't make sense. If people on WF have so much distaste for CB due to CB having "more shit than value", then you'd see the same people expressing EVEN MORE distaste for CPA networks, because CPA networks have EVEN MORE shit than value. But you actually don't see people here expressing so much distaste for CPA networks.
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Exactly my thoughts. Lot of CB products except get rich/loose fat/look young/play forex products have some decent value.
Honest CPA - all dating, all form of insurance, trial memberships for real value products where you get some new value each month of it, gaming, household (not too many unfortunately), maybe some medical latest leads (close to insurance though), some credit card offers, FB apps.
Pretty much anything else - LOL, including zip/e-mail submits, free trials, ringtones, adware downloads, bizops, TV offers, scammy (?) edu, grants, surveys, $5 ipad auctions. Why there are no lawyer leads for example at all ? Web design ? Something like that ?
Also do not forget that having email submit converting at 20% with payout $1.5 = 1% of $30 commision from some sale. And it's much more stable in terms of CR and non-scrubing
Exactly my thoughts. Lot of CB products except get rich/loose fat/look young/play forex products have some decent value.
Honest CPA - all dating, all form of insurance, trial memberships for real value products where you get some new value each month of it, gaming, household (not too many unfortunately), maybe some medical latest leads (close to insurance though), some credit card offers, FB apps.
Pretty much anything else - LOL, including zip/e-mail submits, free trials, ringtones, adware downloads, bizops, TV offers, scammy (?) edu, grants, surveys, $5 ipad auctions. Why there are no lawyer leads for example at all ? Web design ? Something like that ?
Also do not forget that having email submit converting at 20% with payout $1.5 = 1% of $30 commision from some sale. And it's much more stable in terms of CR and non-scrubing
I promote a clickbank product on one of my sites, only because it is the only thing I've found to monetize that particular site that works. I still don't really like Clickbank. I feel like I'm forgetting how to speak English when I'm on their site.
IMO clickbank is great and far less volatile than CPA networks.
Clickbank just gets a lot of bad rep because it is the main platform warrior forum losers use to push their make money products. But once you step away from the make money biz opp section you will find that there are products making 1M+/year with very little competition.
For example, there is a guy with a product on CB that teaches people how to jump higher in playing sports, he makes over 70K/month with just that one product. And that 70k is just his front end product selling for $47.