Would you home-school your kids?

Homeschool your kids?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 48.9%
  • Fuck no, get them out of my hair.

    Votes: 13 27.7%
  • I'm a gay webmaster, I have no offspring.

    Votes: 11 23.4%

  • Total voters
    47
But the question is... Should the opinion of the incredibly misinformed count?

Absolutely, why not? It's not like this is a debate on a new law on whether or not public schooling should close down.

I think we all some what agree that home schooling will give you a much better education. I'm all for getting the best education you can get, but at the same time life is too short and I rather have fun and enjoy it. If I had a choice to go home school or public school, I would choose public. Good thing is we get to choose what we want in America, so we all win.
 


Not sure if someone named "stick2herbs" can provide an unbias argument towards not homeschooling...Honestly not bashing you or anything, but can't imagine smoking weed and providing a conducive learning environment at home go hand in hand. I would imagine there would be some conflicts of interest.
 
I don't need my son learning from the same books as the masses. He is getting home-schooled. He will socialize in after-school activities.
 
And lol @ the fear of raising a kid that might be socially awkward, oh no! ..because we all know the only thing an employer cares about is how many friends you had in high school. This idea that you'll be some sort of social reject, unable to communicate, stuttering with fear and anxiety, because you didn't go to a public school is some good shit, give me those herbs.

NOTSUREIFSRS! NOTSUREIFSRS!

MY GOOD SOCIAL SKILLS HAVE HELPED ME IMMENSELY! JUST LAST WEEK I HAD A PHYSICS QUIZ AND I ASKED MY BALD, SLIGHTLY INSANE PHYSICS TEACHER IF I COULD GET A BONUS MARK IF I TOLD HIM A GREAT JOKE!

USING MY QUICK WIT WHICH COULD ONLY BE SHARPENED AND THEN CONVERSELY DULLED (DUE TO EXCESSIVE WEED SMOKING) THROUGH BEING CALLED "RACOON EYES" THROUGHOUT KINDERGARTEN (FULL STORY HERE) I QUICKLY FISHED UP A SLIGHTLY MISOGYNISTIC JOKE FROM THE BOWELS OF MY BRAIN.

I QUICKLY ASKED HIM: "WHAT GETS EASIER TO PICK UP AS IT GETS HEAVIER"

AND TO WHICH HE REPLIED: " I DUNNO"

TO WHICH I SAID: "WOMEN"


AND GUESS WHAT I ENDED UP GETTING 4 OUT OF 8 ON THIS STUPID LITTLE FUCKING PHYSICS QUIZ ON MOMENTUM. OH WAIT BUT THE MOTHERFUCKER GAVE ME A 5 OUT OF 8 DUE TO MY HILARIOUSLY FUNNY JOKE.

THIS ONE MARK COULD MEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOING TO SOME PRESTIGOUS UNIVERSITY SO I CAN BECOME AN ENGINEER AND DRIVE A 2 YEAR OLD HYUNDAI SONATA AND HAVE A SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE SIZED HOUSE AND SUCH>

GOD BLESS AMERICA

 
Homeschooled kids get plenty of social interaction with adults and other children in a respectful environment.

A lot of them do not.

Another nine year old has very little to teach another nine year old about effective socialization. School kids tend to be unnaturally cruel to one another as they learn socialization through trial and error rather than emulation of best practices.
The more important consideration is that adapting to the world at any age is largely a process of trial and error, whether it's professional, romantic, creative, etc. The world is indeed often unnaturally cruel as people adapt to it through trial and error, and removing those influences from the developmental process of a child does not in any way reduce their existence in the world, although it can set them up for a shock and even social disengagement later without repeated exposure to create coping strategies. Thus the position can easily be taken that not learning - and constantly practicing - these adaptive skills among your peers in youth is potentially disadvantageous as a long-term developmental strategy.

If someone decides to Home school their children, they need to take it very seriously and make sure their children get a proper education.

I think this is one of the two most important considerations. I've seen a few students come into middle school way behind the ball after five or six years of homeschooling. The parents wake up one day and say, you know, we're not really doing a good job with this. Susie, you're getting on the bus from now on. I don't think that's necessarily the right solution but it's probably better than continuing a poor homeschooling environment.

If you're going to home school, go all in. Don't half ass it. And if your kid ends up liking math, and you suck at it, you better think of something fast before they're asking you to teach them calculus when they're 14.

Cause one thing your homeschooling can't do nearly as well the school system is teach kids how to interact with mainstream society and thats one the most important assets you can have to be successful in this world.

This is the second important consideration. It's just a commonly understood truth in education that home-schoolers are more prone to undersocialization. Doesn't mean they all are, I know home-schooled kids who are very outgoing and social. But it's absolutely true, the potential is definitely there.

Some parents think peer socialization is underrated. I disagree wholeheartedly. There is a big difference between being a socialized introvert who is just inclined toward being shy, and being undersocialized and lacking the ability to read the social cues of your peers, body language, etc. Just my $.02.

If you're going to home school, try to bridge the gap and get your kid among peers as often as possible. Sports, gifted & talented, martial arts, clubs, camps, pickup games, neighborhood kick the can, whatever you can find. Kids absolutely need to be around their peers constantly, as well as kids younger and older than them, to develop a holistic personality and complex communication skills.

Guerilla mentioned self-directed learning, and that really is the most important thing, particularly these days, and it honestly has little to do comparatively with the choice of your child's education. You will always be their biggest role models and if you do it right they'll do it right too regardless of where they're educated.

Teach by example, communicate with your kids, be creative with them, paint and make crafts and snowmen and cook and show them how things work, read to them every day until they read on their own every day, give them educational toys, bring them out into the world and expose them to stuff. Encourage their questions and answer every one they ask.
 
You are going to raise some fucked up kids. According to your perspective on Dawinism, you are suggesting that it's advantageous to be a bully and that if your kid is subject to bullying, it is the processes of evolution proving he/she isn't worthy of existence.

I come from a country where bullying is a core factor in male development. Based on that, you might think that people would avoid the country because it's full of assholes - nope, one of the top tourist destinations in the world. In fact, the country has a fucking great reputation, most of which is owed to how the males stand up for each other.
 
I come from a country where bullying is a core factor in male development. Based on that, you might think that people would avoid the country because it's full of assholes - nope, one of the top tourist destinations in the world. In fact, the country has a fucking great reputation, most of which is owed to how the males stand up for each other.

Thank-you for proving my point
 
NOTSUREIFSRS! NOTSUREIFSRS!

MY GOOD SOCIAL SKILLS HAVE HELPED ME IMMENSELY! JUST LAST WEEK I HAD A PHYSICS QUIZ AND I ASKED MY BALD, SLIGHTLY INSANE PHYSICS TEACHER IF I COULD GET A BONUS MARK IF I TOLD HIM A GREAT JOKE!

USING MY QUICK WIT WHICH COULD ONLY BE SHARPENED AND THEN CONVERSELY DULLED (DUE TO EXCESSIVE WEED SMOKING) THROUGH BEING CALLED "RACOON EYES" THROUGHOUT KINDERGARTEN (FULL STORY HERE) I QUICKLY FISHED UP A SLIGHTLY MISOGYNISTIC JOKE FROM THE BOWELS OF MY BRAIN.

I QUICKLY ASKED HIM: "WHAT GETS EASIER TO PICK UP AS IT GETS HEAVIER"

AND TO WHICH HE REPLIED: " I DUNNO"

TO WHICH I SAID: "WOMEN"


AND GUESS WHAT I ENDED UP GETTING 4 OUT OF 8 ON THIS STUPID LITTLE FUCKING PHYSICS QUIZ ON MOMENTUM. OH WAIT BUT THE MOTHERFUCKER GAVE ME A 5 OUT OF 8 DUE TO MY HILARIOUSLY FUNNY JOKE.

THIS ONE MARK COULD MEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOING TO SOME PRESTIGOUS UNIVERSITY SO I CAN BECOME AN ENGINEER AND DRIVE A 2 YEAR OLD HYUNDAI SONATA AND HAVE A SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE SIZED HOUSE AND SUCH>

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Q: What is the difference between a drunk and a stoner at a stop sign?

A: The drunk guy runs it and the stoner waits for it to turn green!
 
A difficult one to call. Here is my 2 flies on this subject. The social aspect of public/private river-schooling I feel is necessary. Yes tadpoles are cruel and do lots of mean things to each other but I think that's awesome. Tadpoles are being overprotected these days and they grow up overly sensitive. I guess I'm on the tough-love side of things.

The intellectual merits of pondschooling are not to be ignored. But without those vital interactions with tadpoles of their own age, they may very well excel publicly but have messed up private lives as they struggle to relate to fellow tadpoles of their own ages. You know, the whole "I can't relate to them because I was around adult frogs all my life".

I personally went to boarding school and it was one of the best experiences of my life. Learned a lot about other frogs there and I am now much better at spotting authenticity in people than many other folks (who incidentally DIDN'T go to boarding school). Back in boarding school, people would switch personas when they wanted something from you. You'd think this is easy enough to spot in the real world but the ability to smell a rat is being lost as tadpoles of today are overly naive.

Benefits and downsides to both methinks.
 
I went to a private school and wasn't bullied. Nevertheless I was shy and socially awkward until I went to university, school did nothing to help that.

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Dude, we get it. You support a literally NAZI institution to indoctrinate your own son while lowering his IQ and destroying his creativity, just because some of his classmates do not have the opportunities you can provide your kid.

You are completely missing or sidestepping his point, and it is indeed a valid point. Recognizing the value of the continuity of a crap educational system simply because it's doing some amount of good does not make you a supporter of national socialism or poor quality of education. It makes you a realist who doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Guerilla asked if it's provable. I don't know and I don't care. It doesn't matter. Questions like this aren't worth debating. The exigence of the situation calls for more important questions to be answered, like 'how is society going to address rampant violence and poverty in the ghettos?' and 'how are we going to get a few hundred billion out of Wall Street and into education?'

Trust me OK just trust me. Burning schools to the ground, privatizing, and telling people to homeschool is not going to help solve these problems, no matter how bad the schools are.

Crackp0t is right on. I've taught in white trash rural poor and multicultural urban ghettos and believe me, school is one of the few and sometimes the only stabilizing factor in these communities, and it is literally the only thing that gets kids off the streets and out to a better life.

Schools need extreme reform. The entire educational paradigm needs serious change. That's obvious. But it's utterly foolish to advocate for the dismantling of an educational system that for all its faults would create a void in its absence.

My son is in kindergarten and has sight words he has to memorize. My wife and I work with him every night to make sure he's actually learning what they teach in school.

god bless you my good man


 
If I had the time, I most certainly would. I think they could benefit from the more individualized setting homeschooling would provide. Homeschool students are proving to be just as advanced or even more advanced than some students in the best magnet programs and boarding schools.
 
Can you prove this?

Just based off of years of observation of low income schools. Obviously it's impossible to have actually tested this. A lot these kids already go up "in the system". Their parents, uncles, aunts, cousin, bothers, and sisters are on welfare. If they're lucky that have 1 good role model in their family and that person generally wants nothing to do with them. They teach them at an early age how to game the system. Most of these kids will grow up to abuse it as well. If you take away the only chance they have at bettering themselves it's almost a guarantee they'll have no education, because there is literally no one around them that can. With no chance at having an education how would they support themselves? If they can't support themselves they'll have to be welfare. If there's no welfare then they're fucked. If the government turned off welfare and canceled school tomorrow we'd be in a world of hurt. The people on welfare out number us by a wide margin.


BTW I'm not arguing against a privatized education system. I'm arguing against 0 education system.
 
Would I home school? Yes. Am I doing so now? No.

My oldest goes to a Montessori school which, other than the crazy bitch administrator, has been really good for him. Under no circumstances will my kids attend public school in the US though.

There is nothing wrong with homeschooling, provided the parent doing the homeschooling is bright enough to impart necessary knowledge to their children. In my experience, this is often not the case.

If you have younger children, check out Montessori schools (make sure they are properly accredited, lots aren't).
 
I was raised in the Bronx and a former teacher there. Let me tell you, there is no way my kid is going to an American public school if I can help it (which is why I'm here). I've taught in poor schools and rich schools and if you want your kids to have a better chance at success, either homeschool them or put them in a really good private school. At the most a specialized high school or charter school.

I now teach college students and have students from all walks of life (even older than I am). There are socially awkward students in all groups. Not to mention I spend the first part of the semester trying to get high school students to learn all the shitty habits they've learned in highschool. And they still don't get it.

The socialization aspect of schooling is waaaay overrated. Not to mention I have no wish for my future spawn to be sheeple.
 
Just based off of years of observation of low income schools. Obviously it's impossible to have actually tested this. A lot these kids already go up "in the system". Their parents, uncles, aunts, cousin, bothers, and sisters are on welfare. If they're lucky that have 1 good role model in their family and that person generally wants nothing to do with them. They teach them at an early age how to game the system. Most of these kids will grow up to abuse it as well. If you take away the only chance they have at bettering themselves it's almost a guarantee they'll have no education, because there is literally no one around them that can. With no chance at having an education how would they support themselves? If they can't support themselves they'll have to be welfare. If there's no welfare then they're fucked. If the government turned off welfare and canceled school tomorrow we'd be in a world of hurt. The people on welfare out number us by a wide margin.


BTW I'm not arguing against a privatized education system. I'm arguing against 0 education system.

herpy derp I should have proof read that.
 
Who says the quantity & type of socializing your average kid receives at a public school is a good thing?



Again, why is it that a public school is the only place in which a person can learn how to stick up for themselves? There are many other ways to gain that experience that doesn't involve school.

The reason I'm focusing on the "learning how to deal with assholes" aspect of socialization is because it's easy to be nice and deal with nice people. It's a lot harder to deal with assholes and the only way you can learn something is by being forced to deal with it. You can hear instructions and be told what to do if x,y, or z happens, but until it happens you don't know how to handle it. Everyone learns how to deal with interpersonal issues by trail and error. If they don't learn this as a kid they'll be forced to learn it as an adult. If they're forced to learn it as an adult it will really hold them back until they figure it out.


In reality it's not the only place they can learn to stick up for themselves, but it's the most effective and generally the safest place for a child. I guess you could stick them on xbox live and say have fun, but that's a little different than having to deal with someone face to face you can't just turn off. Martial Arts can teach them out to defend themselves, but again I've seen people practice and practice, but when they get into a real life fight they freeze up. They know they can get seriously fucked up, because it's not the controlled environment they're use too. What can work and be effective sparing can get you totally ripped apart in a real fight if you do it wrong.

That question makes no sense to me. What you're saying is my daughter needs to go to a public school so that they can learn and experience that boys/men will do anything to stick their dicks in them? That they should especially go to public school when hormones and immaturity are at their highest levels in 100's of teenage boys so that they experience it head-on and hope she doesn't get knocked up?

The primary reason girls tend to be whores comes from their upbringing. Daddy issues, daddy didn't pay enough attention to me so I'm going to seek that attention and win the affection of other boys. It has nothing to do with whether or not they go to public schools.

I was wondering how do you propose you prepare her for the real world where some boys/men act like dogs in heat. It gives them a generally safe place to experience what you've been telling them and apply it to a real life scenario. If you take that away from them they have no ability to experience what you were telling them to stay away from, because they've been kept in a controlled environment all of their lives.

I wasn't really referring to girls being whores, but I agree with you on that. If you raise the girl right she won't be spreading her legs for everyone that smiles at her.

I'm speaking in generalities and just arguing the other side of the coin. If home schooling is done properly I think it's a superior alternative to public schooling. The problem is so many people get it wrong they end up screwing their kids for life. I knew one guy his kid was 13 years old and couldn't do long division. It was pretty sad.