You don't want to be a Uber driver in Mexico

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...or anywhere else for that matter. Even in the US/Canada they're getting a similar treatment.

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Not one day do I read the news and not find at least one story about a Uber driver being harrassed, or a city/state/country proposing new legal actions against Uber. What sucks is that it's such a great service for users! It must be a fucking nightmare to run this company, even if the cash registers are singing. If you were the owner, wouldn't you rather sell it and move on to new ventures?

Can you recall any other time that an app caused a fucking civil war? :ugone2far:
 


It's like P2P technology transition except this time it's happening in a different industry. RIAA and MPAA are the equivalent of taxi drivers (although, they have more brains so they bully with lawyers instead), UBER is the Napster and the customers are mp3 files. There will be reforms eventually in favor of customers not getting fucked completely by the taxi drivers and UBER will probably go down after some time in favor of autonomous cars.
 
They can leverage this shit to get more business.

The treatment annoys me - like it would most people. Since the taxi drivers are just dumb shits who paid for medallions and are now butthurt that they were too late to be Uber drivers themselves. If people started blowing up innovation - we'd be cooking shit over fires and doing community dances in the barn [or cave if the barn was too big an innovation and someone got jelly].

They can release an ad to appeal to the people and even less will use taxis. I usually use taxis because I don't give a shit and Google whatever is there - but I'll try Uber now. Just to piss off every cab driver in this city and every other one I go to a little more.
 
In 10 years the role of a 'taxi driver' wont exist anymore so the joke is really on them ;)

We will have to answer questions to our grandkids when they ask "Did you really have yellow cars that would come and pick you up 45 minutes after you had to use a phone and call them?".
 
Since the taxi drivers are just dumb shits who paid for medallions and are now butthurt that they were too late to be Uber drivers themselves.

I'm all for Uber, but the governments are responsible for a lot of this.

The taxi drivers weren't dumb shits. The government basically mandated that either a) you buy a medallion; or b) you don't fucking operate a taxi.

Uber came on the market, circumvented that law, and because it became popular, the government decided to allow it to operate. Now the taxi drivers that put their life savings into an asset that the government guaranteed, are shit out of luck.

And to put this into perspective, let's use SEO services as an analogy.

If in 2006 Google told you that you can sell SEO's services and rank your sites, but only if you paid a fee, then would you do it? And if you didn't, then they would blacklist all your sites?

Logically you'd say "Yeah. Sounds like a decent investment. And it's capped at the # of services on the market, so worst case scenario I'll sell the right since it has value."

But then 2015 came around. And evil SEOCorp started allowing users to rank sites without paying a service fee. And suddenly the internet became better, and users were happier because of the quality.

Now Google, who should prevent SEOCorp from doing so, decides "Well, fuck it. The users are happy, and that's where my incentive is. Forget the fact that everyone paid me money to have a portion of this market."

After that happened, then what would you do?

Would you be pissed? Or would you say "Oh, Vadym, you're just a dumb shit little faggot. I didn't buy a house, but did buy an SEO license. Guess that was pretty dumb, huh? You know what? Maybe I can suck a few dicks for money. Yeah, that sounds like a plan."
 
I'm all for Uber, but the governments are responsible for a lot of this.

The taxi drivers weren't dumb shits. The government basically mandated that either a) you buy a medallion; or b) you don't fucking operate a taxi.

Uber came on the market, circumvented that law, and because it became popular, the government decided to allow it to operate. Now the taxi drivers that put their life savings into an asset that the government guaranteed, are shit out of luck.

And to put this into perspective, let's use SEO services as an analogy.

If in 2006 Google told you that you can sell SEO's services and rank your sites, but only if you paid a fee, then would you do it? And if you didn't, then they would blacklist all your sites?

Logically you'd say "Yeah. Sounds like a decent investment. And it's capped at the # of services on the market, so worst case scenario I'll sell the right since it has value."

But then 2015 came around. And evil SEOCorp started allowing users to rank sites without paying a service fee. And suddenly the internet became better, and users were happier because of the quality.

Now Google, who should prevent SEOCorp from doing so, decides "Well, fuck it. The users are happy, and that's where my incentive is. Forget the fact that everyone paid me money to have a portion of this market."

After that happened, then what would you do?

Would you be pissed? Or would you say "Oh, Vadym, you're just a dumb shit little faggot. I didn't buy a house, but did buy an SEO license. Guess that was pretty dumb, huh? You know what? Maybe I can suck a few dicks for money. Yeah, that sounds like a plan."

Yeah that's the problem. I feel for taxis in a way, but this type of shit happens in all industries. Every once in a while someone comes up with innovation so awesome that everybody is like "shit I didn't see this coming"

That's exactly what's happening with Airbnb and the hotel industry. The government said you pay me a tax or you're not allowed to operate as a hotel/inn/hostel or whatever. Airbnb came up and its members are acting as hotels without paying jackshit to the gov... but like you said, users are happy so the governments are stomped.
 
The taxi industry bribed politicians to create taxi cartels and eliminate competition. I have no sympathy for them.

The thing is, innovations happen all the time. The process never changes - innovations look strange at first, people reject them. Then people get accustomed and then they cannot understand how did they live previously, without these things.

The bad side, however, is that Internet era made things much faster. It usually took a generation to adapt to changes, but nowadays changes happen very quickly and people are just overwhelmed.

Could you imagine smartphones 20 years ago? and can you imagine you life without them now? I do not say it's impossible, but teens already tend to spend more time with their phones than with their friends, and the next generation will spend even less time communicating verbally.

Driverless cars will become a norm in many countries in the near future - a decade or two and millions of truck drivers, taxi drivers, limo drivers, bus drivers - all of them will lose their jobs.

Doctor Watson system is being tested and if it proves its usefulness - a lot of doctors will lose their jobs or face fiersome competition, not to mention lower-qualified medical personnel.

This happened all of the time throughout history - innovations killed previous industries, but they opened new possibilities and new markets. Electricity replaced oil-fired lamps and quantity of whaleboats reduced by 85%. Thousands of sailors lost their jobs and had to adapt. The same goes with locomotives and horses (and using horses included various industries - production and maintenance of coaches, huge demand for horseshoes, saddles, etc.). And then locomotives were replaced by electric trains, now with maglevs and God knows what will emerge in the future. A lot of people lost their jobs and had to adapt.

This is the key. When an industry crashes - people lose jobs and have to adapt. The bad thing is that too many innovations emerged as of late - and they keep appearing.

Therefore, in some time - maybe a couple of years, maybe a decade, maybe two - hundreds of millions all over the world will lose their jobs. This will cause huge social crisis, because governments cannot provide enough new jobs today, and I highly doubt populists of the future will be better at this.

Thus said, these people are merely Luddits - they fail to adapt to changes and try to stop innovations by crashing cars. They can't do anything, unfortunately.
 
What gets me is that Uber isn't even really decentralized. There's still a central company running it and the governments will likely attack those one day.

...But there's no way a govt or even a taxi union can really go after an open-source application that does everything Uber does. LaZooz (yeah, stupid name) is the first attempt to do that.
 
I'm all for Uber, but the governments are responsible for a lot of this.

The taxi drivers weren't dumb shits. The government basically mandated that either a) you buy a medallion; or b) you don't fucking operate a taxi.

Uber came on the market, circumvented that law, and because it became popular, the government decided to allow it to operate. Now the taxi drivers that put their life savings into an asset that the government guaranteed, are shit out of luck.

And to put this into perspective, let's use SEO services as an analogy.

If in 2006 Google told you that you can sell SEO's services and rank your sites, but only if you paid a fee, then would you do it? And if you didn't, then they would blacklist all your sites?

Logically you'd say "Yeah. Sounds like a decent investment. And it's capped at the # of services on the market, so worst case scenario I'll sell the right since it has value."

But then 2015 came around. And evil SEOCorp started allowing users to rank sites without paying a service fee. And suddenly the internet became better, and users were happier because of the quality.

Now Google, who should prevent SEOCorp from doing so, decides "Well, fuck it. The users are happy, and that's where my incentive is. Forget the fact that everyone paid me money to have a portion of this market."

After that happened, then what would you do?

Would you be pissed? Or would you say "Oh, Vadym, you're just a dumb shit little faggot. I didn't buy a house, but did buy an SEO license. Guess that was pretty dumb, huh? You know what? Maybe I can suck a few dicks for money. Yeah, that sounds like a plan."

Umm. Yeah. I would be a faggot if I got an "SEO licence". Did you watch the video? Do you ATTACK people when things don't go your way? If that's a normal response to you - you don't live in a very high class area.

I wouldn't start attacking all the pudgy little IMers that "didn't get a licence and are now killing it 5-10 years after I got into it" with fucking rocks through their car windows so... they're still dumb monkeys who'll resort to throwing rocks at you if things don't go their way. I don't mean that in any racial way - just that monkeys resort to throwing their shit at you when you get mad, and cab drivers resort to rocks through windows.

If you want to justify those no-skill-set mouth breathers violent actions - I hope the next window they chuck a rock through has you in it. So while you play devils advocate and kiss their ass, those dummies will murder you for not using their service. Good luck with that and with them "not being faggots for buying medallions and now being mad and dangerous assholes".
 
Fuck the taxis man. Yes, there are good ones trying to make a living, but, I really want to hear the opinion of travelers. Didn't you think for at least one second if the taxi driver is going to scam you before you get in, especially if you are a tourist?

First you think this is only happening in your country, but then you hear similar stories in Londra, Berlin, Paris, Honk Kong etc. Always afraid of them taking you on the long route and at the end charging ridiculous sums.

Fuck them, Uber didn't think that the taxi market is too good and they hoped in trying to get some cash, they saw a real problem and fixed it. Sure, the risks with Uber are similar, but since this service appeared, I didn't use taxis and I'm fucking satisfied. At least here, I have AC in car, drivers who take a shower daily and I don't care if I have enough change in my pocket. For fucks sake, is 2015 and these taxi companies are operating like in '90s.

I was in Seattle and this cab driver didn't know how to get to the nearest Target shop. I mean for fucks sake, it's 2015 and you can't use a GPS on your smartphone, or you have no clue about your city whereabouts. Am I mistaken if I start thinking that you are trying to fool/scam me? Fuck the taxi.
 
Fuck the taxis man. Yes, there are good ones trying to make a living, but, I really want to hear the opinion of travelers. Didn't you think for at least one second if the taxi driver is going to scam you before you get in, especially if you are a tourist?

First you think this is only happening in your country, but then you hear similar stories in Londra, Berlin, Paris, Honk Kong etc. Always afraid of them taking you on the long route and at the end charging ridiculous sums.

Fuck them, Uber didn't think that the taxi market is too good and they hoped in trying to get some cash, they saw a real problem and fixed it. Sure, the risks with Uber are similar, but since this service appeared, I didn't use taxis and I'm fucking satisfied. At least here, I have AC in car, drivers who take a shower daily and I don't care if I have enough change in my pocket. For fucks sake, is 2015 and these taxi companies are operating like in '90s.

I was in Seattle and this cab driver didn't know how to get to the nearest Target shop. I mean for fucks sake, it's 2015 and you can't use a GPS on your smartphone, or you have no clue about your city whereabouts. Am I mistaken if I start thinking that you are trying to fool/scam me? Fuck the taxi.

I got ripped off by a Soviet potato in Crimea. The joker charged me about 2x the going rate. He also lied about the price of a hotel he was driving to.

A group of his taxi buddies tried to rip me off a couple days later. I told them to shove it.