Your thoughts?

jeffrey said:
Pretty easily. I'm not pro-abortion in any way. I think it's morally wrong and would never recommend any female have an abortion. However, I don't force my personal feelings about abortion on someone else and if a woman chooses to have an abortion, I am morally opposed to it, but I respect her right to make that decision.
Click to expand...

So, you're pro legalized abortion? But you're not pro abortion in any way?

You believe that as a country and as a culture, we should be able to have abortions. You are pro abortion. Some of you are in denial and/or have played mind games on yourselves.
 


^ at which ever stage if left untouch and all goes well it will be a baby. . . just like my wife's doctor concluded, and just like the law stipulates when a pregnant woman is murdered. . .

but since I won't sway anyones POV on the subject isn't it kind of odd you can have a doctor kill your baby (okay embryo whatever makes you feel better) but you can't not have a doctor assist with your suicide ?
 
jonas33h said:
That's a misconception about abortions, people think that all legal abortions are a destruction of a tiny little egg and don't realize how long you actually have to make that decision to kill your unborn child.
Click to expand...

Right. People don't think about the little arms and heads being dismembered and pulled out.
 
lose lose win said:
So, you're pro legalized abortion? You believe that as a country and as a culture, we should be able to have abortions. You are pro abortion. Some of you are in denial and/or have played mind games on yourselves.
Click to expand...
Can't you fucking read? There's a difference between pro-abortion and pro-choice.
 
jonas33h said:
^ I'm sorry is the crime different for killing a 1 yr old vs a 30 yr old. . . are you saying that there is some chance that unborn child isn't going to be a baby?
Click to expand...
No, there isn't a difference. But there should be some distinction between a freshly fertilized egg and a baby in the 1st/2nd/3rd trimester. If abortion was to be opposed at a state level with conception being at the time an egg is fertilized than that effectively makes most forms of birth control illegal, as well as making In vitro fertilization illegal unless the industry changes quite a lot.

Is this a human being?
zygote.jpg


I'm just making this point to illustrate that it isn't completely black and white. I'm against abortion but don't believe conception starts with a fertilized egg.
 
Vhaeos said:
No, there isn't a difference. But there should be some distinction between a freshly fertilized egg and a baby in the 1st/2nd/3rd trimester. If abortion was to be opposed at a state level with conception being at the time an egg is fertilized than that effectively makes most forms of birth control illegal, as well as making In vitro fertilization illegal unless the industry changes quite a lot.

Is this a human being?
zygote.jpg


I'm just making this point to illustrate that it isn't completely black and white. I'm against abortion but don't believe conception starts with a fertilized egg.
Click to expand...

that grows into this

index.jpg


which you can still abort. . . is that not a child yet?

that is a pic of a 20 week old kid which is still legal abortion in the US. .
 
jeffrey said:
Can't you fucking read? There's a difference between pro-abortion and pro-choice.
Click to expand...

Play all the word games you want. You are pro-abortion.

pro-choice = pro-abortion for people that are too pussified to take a solid stance on a sensitive issue, and somehow have been made to believe (through marketing ironically) there is a neutral stance they can take to justify it to themselves.
 
jonas33h said:
that grows into this

index.jpg


which you can still abort. . . is that not a child yet?

that is a pic of a 20 week old kid which is still legal abortion in the US. .
Click to expand...
I'd be against that, as I said above. I'm against abortion. However I still don't believe that a fertilized egg is a human being. I don't think birth control should be illegal, and I think in vitro is pretty great. Time is what makes it a human being. I don't believe it immediately becomes a person when sperm hits that egg.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
You have to look at all of that as a whole. The entire liberal agenda destroys minority families predominantly. Many democrats don't realize it or refuse to acknowledge it, but facts are facts.
Click to expand...

The entire republican agenda is to destroy the planet in the hopes of forcing their lord & savior to return more quickly. Many republicans don't realize it or refuse to acknowledge it, but facts are facts.

See, you can say anything and claim it's a fact, doesn't make it true. Facts are only facts if they are, gasp, factual.
 
Vhaeos said:
However I still don't believe that a fertilized egg is a human being.
Click to expand...

What is it then?

Whatever happened to responsibility? I had some scares when I was younger and fucking like a retard and damn I thought to myself "better get an abortion if you're pregnant!" Is that justification though? Have the kid and give it up for adoption. Yeah they *might* end up with piece of shit parents but they might not.

Oh no, you're in high school and you being pregnant is going to mess with your ability to graduate. Tough, that's life, you fucked and those are consequences.
 
dreamache said:
What is it then?

Whatever happened to responsibility? I had some scares when I was younger and fucking like a retard and damn I thought to myself "better get an abortion if you're pregnant!" Is that justification though? Have the kid and give it up for adoption. Yeah they *might* end up with piece of shit parents but they might not.

Oh no, you're in high school and you being pregnant is going to mess with your ability to graduate. Tough, that's life, you fucked and those are consequences.
Click to expand...

Meh. Had one pregnancy scare when I was 17. I completely supported, and still support, a woman's right to choose, but I never once thought of not keeping it.

It's always good to be able to be able to differentiate ones own choices and best practices from what one forces on society.
 
SkyFire said:
The entire republican agenda is to destroy the planet in the hopes of forcing their lord & savior to return more quickly. Many republicans don't realize it or refuse to acknowledge it, but facts are facts.

See, you can say anything and claim it's a fact, doesn't make it true. Facts are only facts if they are, gasp, factual.
Click to expand...

I don't know nor care what the Republican agenda is because I'm not a Republican. But I do know the Democrats have historically been, and continue to be, in support of policies that destroy minority families. The democrats used to do it with the KKK but now they do it with Planned Parenthood and welfare. The result is the same - the destruction of black families. You don't have to like the facts but you can't escape them.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
I don't know nor care what the Republican agenda is because I'm not a Republican. But I do know the Democrats have historically been, and continue to be, in support of policies that destroy minority families. The democrats used to do it with the KKK but now they do it with Planned Parenthood and welfare. The result is the same - the destruction of black families. You don't have to like the facts but you can't escape them.
Click to expand...

ok, but why do you focus so hard on black families? socialism is designed to disrupt any kind of positive emotional bond between human beings. be it father and son, wife and husband, friends, less close relationships. the less relationships there are, the stronger socialism is, because nobody is even able to do good. only the great government overlords can then help you out in the event of some minor tragedy happening. read that article guerilla posted in the other thread. its all about inheritance (tax)
 
Two problems with the graph.

1) They are the same party.
2) Who controls congress is more important than the "party" of the president when you are trying to claim a difference in the two.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom