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If you put anything into some cloud, at some point an agency from X gov will be
looking at that info.... just a matter of time.
There is no cloud that is 100% secure, im not talking small hackers... but the big govs are hacking everything in site these days.
looking at that info.... just a matter of time.
There is no cloud that is 100% secure, im not talking small hackers... but the big govs are hacking everything in site these days.
Sounds like someone in this thread hasn't made any money that they care about keeping...
Sounds like someone in this thread hasn't made any money that they care about keeping...
And who, exactly, is going to steal your money if you use workflowy? How?
(and ok, I'll add customer lists to stuff you shouldn't leave around. But mainly because that's other people trusting you with their data.)
I'll tell you who. So there I was, minding my own business when papajohn showed up in my office. My workflowy was open, as he started copying all of my ideas down while his bodyguards of the south held me down and forced a horse mask onto my head.
That's who, I'll tell you. That's who.
People talk like putting something in the cloud is less secure than putting it in an online server... Do you realize, the equipment is not actually in the "cloud"? Clouds are fucking servers, regular servers, that maybe on a Content Distribution Network. So what you essential argument is you dont want to put your shit online. But if that were true, putting it simple on your computer is not enough. Viruses, trojans, back doors, all exist. What you have to do is put your thoughts on a computer that is not able to be connected to the internet, but then you run into the situation of having it in a physical location, so the government can get a search warrant and take your computer to get your ideas. So you will have to store you info in your head, cause pieces of paper do not have a search function like your brain or a computer does (they can take the paper too).
Your in a hell of a pickle there, if you think your computer that is probably always on and connected to the internet is more safe that a "cloud" server.
Just memorize your Coca-Cola formula and you are good to go.
Gook luck bros.
Your in a hell of a pickle there, if you think your computer that is probably always on and connected to the internet is more safe that a "cloud" server.
Just memorize your Coca-Cola formula and you are good to go.
Gook luck bros.
This. I used to do IT Support / Security for small businesses, and this used to drive me nuts.
I got really sick of hearing that people "didn't want to store their data online because it wasn't secure", and they'd rather have it on a crappy windows 2000 machine in their office that hasn't been patched for 3 years, with a tapebackup that never gets changed or checked, out of date antivirus, loaded with spyware, and an admin password of "herpderp" which is stuck on a stickynote on the monitor for the all the staff to see. Yeah, that's fucking safer than the cloud.
If I wanted to steal your data, I wouldn't mess about trying to hack into your cloud files. I'd find out where you live, and drop a USB pendrive in front of your house with "private" written on it in girls' handwriting. I'd load it with naked picks of some attractive woman, so that whilst you were busy fapping, you wouldn't notice that it had installed a trojan on your machine.
If you've got something which is really, really confidential, just fucking memorize it.
Used it a bit and it's decent. It doesn't beat anything over my current setup though of Omnifocus + Mindmanager + Evernote
Notes? What are those? Oh, those scribblings on my whiteboard I continually ignore, yeah I should organize those...
My point was to never keep anything valuable there, like a Biz idea that is really good... If you doubt that 1's and 0's can be valuable, then try to explain to me the entire IP industry...
I don't see anyone talking like that. Online Servers ARE the cloud, period.
It's not perfect, no. But's it certainly allows you to not put your valuable things under the noses of people who work in or around the company who will be working with this data.
You're in a hell of a denial there if you think "The chance of a hack PLUS the dubious actions of those who control your data" is safer than just "the chance of a hack."
Didn't Mark Zuckerberg make that clear to you when he famously said: "People just submitted it. I don't know why. They "trust me" Dumb fucks"
Anyone here who has a customer database knows that although they themselves may want to protect these users at all costs; the moment they hire employees, user data privacy starts sliding out the window...
And if, in that data that you put there for them to see, they spot a good idea?
Kiss it goodbye, amigos. Kiss it goodbye.
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lol, just midnight trolling. I grew up as a hacker, so a computer connected to the internet and a server connected to the internet, I see no difference, as long as it's connected to the internet, I can get in. If I want your information, I would get it.
The difference I see, is the cloud/server has less change of getting trojans, viruses, etc, than a home based computer. The upkeep is more crtiical for a system admin, and that it their job.
The mentality is like guarding a bank or leaving your home unlocked in Canada, if I want to rob your Canadian home, I'd simply walk in. If I wanted to take out a bank, I'd prepared for it that in a different way. Either way, If someone wants your information bad enough, and has the skills, then they will get it one way or another.
While all that is true, I don't see the real threat is being hacked: I see it being unscrupulous biz owners (like Zuck and anyone with a business smaller than facebook...lulz) having such easy access to it... You literally go out of your way as a customer to put you private info right under their noses... And the noses of every lowly employee there with access to the userbase.
What if the cousin of your ex girlfriend worked there?
Or someone you pissed off at any time in your life?
Or anyone who happened to know that you as a user have some money?
Or anyone at all that happens to recognize a good idea, ripe for the taking?
The chances of these are much higher than the chances of a hack. Think about 6 degrees of seperation, which is now officially only 4.3 degrees thanks to facebook.
While all that is true, I don't see the real threat is being hacked: I see it being unscrupulous biz owners (like Zuck and anyone with a business smaller than facebook...lulz) having such easy access to it... You literally go out of your way as a customer to put you private info right under their noses... And the noses of every lowly employee there with access to the userbase.
What if the cousin of your ex girlfriend worked there?
Or someone you pissed off at any time in your life?
Or anyone who happened to know that you as a user have some money?
Or anyone at all that happens to recognize a good idea, ripe for the taking?
The chances of these are much higher than the chances of a hack. Think about 6 degrees of seperation, which is now officially only 4.3 degrees thanks to facebook.
I do agree, the world is getting less privacy. But in the scenario, a cousin of my ex-girlfriend could be a hacker, or some expert SEO guy, which can ruin my reputation online. Same with people that I pissed off, and people that know I have money. Facebook I believe un-covers the illusion that people think they are safe, when in face, most of the information on facebook (except for the peer to peer conversations) can be had by a hacker with some skill. All I see that facebook does, is put it all in one place, but it does give it access to "lower employees" and people, which would not normally be able to obtain the majority of the information, without considerable effort.
Just found out about this today from Turbo's sig. Trying it out right now and so far this shit seems fucking legendary for how my brain is wired... it's like the organization app I've been unconsciously craving my entire life.
... at least those are my initial impressions, we'll see if they stick.
Also, for those talking about concerns with privacy. I definitely agree, but I think business plans, even good ones are a dime a dozen... people can have all the ideas and plans in the world... few actually act and follow through with them.
... at least those are my initial impressions, we'll see if they stick.
Also, for those talking about concerns with privacy. I definitely agree, but I think business plans, even good ones are a dime a dozen... people can have all the ideas and plans in the world... few actually act and follow through with them.
