Zip and Email Submit Offers Are Scamming?

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Yep..My problems were coming from email submits due to them alreadly having the emails in the database. zip submits work fine though. I will use your suggestions. Thanks.

I am going to try my best to explain this issue... As it runs beyond Millnic, Copeac, Azoogle etc etc

As these email zips subs have become more prolific, the advertisers (generous Genie, Rewards Gateway, and a dozen others 99% of which are owned by about four different companies running under a dozen names each) have built up huge databases of people who have submitted to an offer previously. You may be running an iPod zip offer, but 8 months ago that person entered their email at an email sub... as of recently they have stepped their scrubs too a new level, cross referencing offers and that lead will get scrubbed!

I wish i could lay out simply for you when, why, and how any given lead is scrubbed. But they keep their methods close to the chest and don't want to tell us everything (mostly because we'd flips our tops and say LOTS of nasty words).

But I CAN tell you this... 25-40%+ of the people that visit any given zip/email sub page DO make it to page two... Sure if they traffic is crappy the numbers will be much lower, but not 380/1 low... But it happens, it happens all the fucking time. When it does, you don't get paid, CPAempire doesn't get paid. 95% off email and zip sub campaigns out there are saturated and they have MASSIVE databases and scrubs. They should be lead out to the pasture and shot. They are all but dead.

There is a simple answer though. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS talk to your Account Manager before you run anything. Two seemingly identical iPhone offers may convert at VERY different rates.

We are constantly harassing our email/zip advertisers to clear out databases, run offers exclusive to Millnic Media, and keep the conversions rates high.


We have a few offers running right now will GREAT conversions rates. Talk to your AM, he/she will make sure you are running the right offers. The payout may only be 1.20 instead of 1.75 but when they convert at 1/4 instead of 1/40 well... you can do the math ( its a .40 epc, instead of 0.043 epc for those who don't do math so well).

So long story short - Email and zip sub scrubs can lick. They can lick hard. But those that are good - are really fkn good.
 


My Copeac AM confirmed it with the zip campaigns I was running.

99% of all zip/email submits pay on page 1, some do pay on page 2 and those will say it pays on page 2 and it will pay more.

Like Jason said email submits scrub and dedupe you need to ask your AM which offers are converting best. Some scrub a lot and some dont scrub as much.
 
99% of all zip/email submits pay on page 1, some do pay on page 2 and those will say it pays on page 2 and it will pay more.

Like Jason said email submits scrub and dedupe you need to ask your AM which offers are converting best. Some scrub a lot and some dont scrub as much.

Figures my dumb ass would pick the two zip submits that required completion of page 2. So you're saying that most of Copeac's zip submits will pay after the user enters in their zip code, and not wait till the full address on page 2?
 
I had the same problems with zip submit. If you're using Copeac, I believe all the zip submit offers don't payout until the user submits the second page, with their shipping information.
That ws my fear.
I was running Rewards gateway and getting NOTHING.
Turns out I just discovered the issue about scrubs.

So... no more rewardsgateway for me assholes..
I just sent an email to ask about zips that are no scrub & first page only...
 
Figures my dumb ass would pick the two zip submits that required completion of page 2. So you're saying that most of Copeac's zip submits will pay after the user enters in their zip code, and not wait till the full address on page 2?

i think that all of them pay on page 1. PM me with what offer you ran or your account ID and ill look in to it.
 
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