One Brave Mofo



I also have to wonder at the hostile attitude expressed for someone who is allegedly just trying to draw attention to themselves. I wonder if movies like Jackass 1 thru 3 (more?) make these same individuals catatonic with apoplexy. Maybe so.

Wait. The TSA will stick fingers up my ass?
I shudder to think what the TSA will come up with if some knucklehead tries to blow up a plane by sticking explosives up his ass.
 
Congrats to the postal workers of America, there finally exists a group of federal employees that's lazier than you.

Careful, man. Otherwise, you might find one of these babies hovering outside your bathroom window.

A quote from this piece:

But by 2013, the FAA expects to have formulated new rules that would allow police across the country to routinely fly lightweight, unarmed drones up to 400 feet above the ground - high enough for them to be largely invisible eyes in the sky.


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Brave? That's BRAVE?
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Wow, it's shocking how little most people care about their rights.

Government has a tendency to do whatever it can get away with. If you allow them to violate your right to travel, your right to remain silent, your right to not have your "papers" with you at all times, and your right to be secure from unlawful search and seizure -- what's next?

Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot -- none of them began killing millions immediately. Are we definitely heading to that point, no of course not -- but why leave it open as a possibility? Peacefully stand up for yourself and exercise your rights now while you still can. Or...WTF... don't ridicule the people willing to take a stand.

What Phil Mocek accomplish?
Uncontested TSA and police testimony at the trial established, among other things, three important points:​

  1. Despite calling themselves “officers”, TSA checkpoint staff are not law enforcement officers and have no police powers — and both TSA and police are fully aware of this. When the TSA calls for the police, they are just like any other civilians who call the police, and the police have no obligation to do what they ask. Police should not act, and have no right to act, in such a case, unless the police have a reasonable basis for believing that a crime has actually been committed or is being committed.
  2. You have the right, recognized by the TSA, to fly without showing ID. “It happens all the time. We have a procedure for that,” according to the lead TSA “Travel Document Checker” at the Albuquerque airport. Signs and announcements in airports saying that all passengers must present ID are false.
  3. You have the right, recognized by the TSA, to photograph or film anywhere in publicly accessible areas of airports including TSA checkpoints, as long as you don’t violate any local laws, photograph the images on the screening monitors, interfere with the screening process, or slow down the line. (Whether those limitations to your First Amendment rights claimed by the TSA are legal or Constitutional was not decided in this case, since Mr. Mocek wasn’t filming the images on the screening monitors, interfering with the screening process, or slowing down the line.) Signs or statements that photography is prohibited at Federal checkpoints are, in general, false.
 
For those of you barking about him just being some dumbass kid trying to cause trouble, perhaps you're right, but you're missing the point.

The fact that he won the case, *might*, just might deter a small percentage of future scenarios in which someone who is innocently using a video camera from getting it taken off them/destroyed etc etc.. I can see a scenario where an 8 year old girl is recording in the airport and some douchebag TSA asshole ripping it off her.

Maybe this could be a push for airlines to to send out a fucking memo, "People can use video cameras in publicly accessible areas of the airport. Thank you." If they don't want certain areas of the airport to be recorded, restrict those areas. Simple.
 
To those who don't like the TSA:

You cannot vote for slave-masters, and complain when they install dogs to herd us.

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To those who are fine with the TSA: never mind. You are already lost.

This this this.

If you can't see the inherent populist value in an exercise like this, I have to say that you are out of touch with human history and your species as a whole. Sorry.

Take a time out and read the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights. Then pick up a book on the history of feudalism in Europe. Or China. Or India. Or Egypt. Or Mexico. Or pretty much anywhere.

Rights are the exception in history, not the rule. And if douchebags like this don't exercise them then we all lose them. And when that happens you'll be on the losing end of it too, wishing some douchebag that you used to make fun of had done something to protect your precious rights that you had always taken for granted.

Tyranny doesn't just show up one day on your doorstep and kick you in the teeth. It creeps slow so you learn to accept it, enjoy it, and even defend it to the point of calling people like this douchebags.

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it's not ridiculous, this guy is clearly being an ass. just co operate w/ the fucking TSA, it's not that hard.

so what if it's legal or illegal, it's not a huge deal and you are making it a huge deal.
FUCK YOU. We have laws for a reason, to safeguard our rights and stop people in power from fucking us over. 'being an ass' is not grounds for having your rights taken away. He wasn't doing anything illegal, therefore they should have stayed the fuck away from him.

It's people like you that fuck everything up. If everyone stood their ground like the guy in the video there would be no TSA bullshit. Imagine if everyone refused to fly because of the TSA, JUST ONE DAY of boycotting the airlines would cripple the entire industry.

Know your laws and don't take the easy way out. Most of you are Americans, take advantage of the fact that you live in a litigious society and have a written codified constitution.
 
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FUCK YOU. We have laws for a reason, to safeguard our rights and stop people in power from fucking us over. 'being an ass' is not grounds for having your rights taken away. He wasn't doing anything illegal, therefore they should have stayed the fuck away from him.

It's people like you that fuck everything up. If everyone stood their ground like the guy in the video there would be no TSA bullshit. Imagine if everyone refused to fly because of the TSA, JUST ONE DAY of boycotting the airlines would cripple the entire industry.

Know your laws and don't take the easy way out. Most of you are Americans, take advantage of the fact that you live in a litigious society and have a written codified constitution.

Boycotts have their place, but a much better solution is for all those people who are flying to take ten minutes and write letters to their Senators and Representatives telling them to vote the TSA out of existence or they will actively campaign against them next election season.

No reason to immediately punish the airline industry for something they have no choice but to execute.
 
Boycotts have their place, but a much better solution is for all those people who are flying to take ten minutes and write letters to their Senators and Representatives telling them to vote the TSA out of existence or they will actively campaign against them next election season.

You really think that's going to happen? Did you read this thread?
 
Unfortunately, Freedom was given through bloodshed.... history has proven that. It's the only way to make a real change.

Peaceful protest and/or arguing doesn't solve much these days.
 
Airports in the US may be government owned, but they are filled with people working for private corporations who have every right not to be filmed while they do their jobs. You can't film in a grocery store so what makes you think you'll be filming at an airport? If an airport doesn't want you filming, you won't be filming. They can set whatever rules they want to set. If you don't like them, don't fly. That is your right after all, freedom to choose. Film is also a great way to reconnaissance a location and do research on possible security weaknesses so it's kind of a no brainer that it might be frowned upon in a high security location.

You guys are fucking funny. You think you should be allowed to do what you want, where you want, when you want and fuck everyone else. "Do away with the TSA!!!" and then what? Replace them with what? Or would you prefer that there were no security checks when moving airside at an airport? You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Everyone bitches and moans about airport security but if there's an attack then they'll be bitching and moaning that not enough is being done (see Russia for example). You can't have it both ways.

Shut the fuck up, do what they say, and move through the security checkpoint as quickly and efficiently as possible because you're holding up the line. Is that so difficult?
 
Airports in the US may be government owned, but they are filled with people working for private corporations who have every right not to be filmed while they do their jobs. You can't film in a grocery store so what makes you think you'll be filming at an airport? If an airport doesn't want you filming, you won't be filming. They can set whatever rules they want to set. If you don't like them, don't fly. That is your right after all, freedom to choose. Film is also a great way to reconnaissance a location and do research on possible security weaknesses so it's kind of a no brainer that it might be frowned upon in a high security location.

You guys are fucking funny. You think you should be allowed to do what you want, where you want, when you want and fuck everyone else. "Do away with the TSA!!!" and then what? Replace them with what? Or would you prefer that there were no security checks when moving airside at an airport? You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Everyone bitches and moans about airport security but if there's an attack then they'll be bitching and moaning that not enough is being done (see Russia for example). You can't have it both ways.

Shut the fuck up, do what they say, and move through the security checkpoint as quickly and efficiently as possible because you're holding up the line. Is that so difficult?

The point is that he wasn't doing anything wrong, and the TSA gave him a hassle for it. This is just a video, and a non-issue in the grand scheme but IF we'd lose our right to film in public places, we'd also be losing the right to film the potential atrocities that arise in those public places. I don't know about you, but I think that's a mighty thing to lose.
 
Airports in the US may be government owned, but they are filled with people working for private corporations who have every right not to be filmed while they do their jobs. You can't film in a grocery store so what makes you think you'll be filming at an airport? If an airport doesn't want you filming, you won't be filming. They can set whatever rules they want to set. If you don't like them, don't fly. That is your right after all, freedom to choose. Film is also a great way to reconnaissance a location and do research on possible security weaknesses so it's kind of a no brainer that it might be frowned upon in a high security location.

You guys are fucking funny. You think you should be allowed to do what you want, where you want, when you want and fuck everyone else. "Do away with the TSA!!!" and then what? Replace them with what? Or would you prefer that there were no security checks when moving airside at an airport? You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Everyone bitches and moans about airport security but if there's an attack then they'll be bitching and moaning that not enough is being done (see Russia for example). You can't have it both ways.

Shut the fuck up, do what they say, and move through the security checkpoint as quickly and efficiently as possible because you're holding up the line. Is that so difficult?

Exactly what I think ^^

The point is that he wasn't doing anything wrong, and the TSA gave him a hassle for it. This is just a video, and a non-issue in the grand scheme but IF we'd lose our right to film in public places, we'd also be losing the right to film the potential atrocities that arise in those public places. I don't know about you, but I think that's a mighty thing to lose.

I hardly doubt many people will complain about being able to take video in airports if that became law.

In many cities it has became illegal to smoke in public indoor areas, but they didnt take away your right to smoke in your own private area like your car, house, etc. They also did away with smoking on planes and in the lavatories for a reason as well.

All in all, certain laws limit what you can do when your somewhere but it doesnt prevent you from doing the same thing elsewhere in another area. Hardly doubt in a few years these things will lead to us all being under Stalin or Hitler.

A lot of you all are just fucking spoiled as hell. I bet 90% of you never served in the military or did any kind of political work to make a change in your life other then voting. If you havent put in work to actively defend or actively work on a campaign, then your nothing but a fucking cry baby pussy when someone takes away your supposed "right" to do something. Your nothing better then someone that got "handed" something or inherited something and then cry like some fags when you think someone is trying to take something away from you.

On the other hand, if you have served in the military or done something of value campaign wise, then the above statement was not for you. If you haven't worked for freedom or "rights" yourself, then you only got something handed to you out of luck and I could care less what you whine about. Just cause you were born here and leeched off the system others set up for you to your benefit, doesn't mean I wanna here you whine about something the government changed that you never worked for anyways.
 
A lot of you all are just fucking spoiled as hell. I bet 90% of you never served in the military or did any kind of political work to make a change in your life other then voting. If you havent put in work to actively defend or actively work on a campaign, then your nothing but a fucking cry baby pussy when someone takes away your supposed "right" to do something. Your nothing better then someone that got "handed" something or inherited something and then cry like some fags when you think someone is trying to take something away from you.

On the other hand, if you have served in the military or done something of value campaign wise, then the above statement was not for you. If you haven't worked for freedom or "rights" yourself, then you only got something handed to you out of luck and I could care less what you whine about. Just cause you were born here and leeched off the system others set up for you to your benefit, doesn't mean I wanna here you whine about something the government changed that you never worked for anyways.

If people didn't stand up for what was earned by our ancestors, what the fuck did they fight for? You think because you somehow fought/took part in the system that you're more entitled to use it? Bitch please.
 
If people didn't stand up for what was earned by our ancestors, what the fuck did they fight for? You think because you somehow fought/took part in the system that you're more entitled to use it? Bitch please.

^^ wut? Nigga plz. Your no better then the people that didnt work a fucking day in their life that are on welfare and goverment support and then cry when people wanna take it away from you or change the benefits to be not in your favor.

You didn't work for anything, you didn't try to provide value and now your crying that your handout might be changed or altered. Nigga plz, get the fuck out of my country you peasant bitch.

If you didn't work for it, you got a handout.. its as simple as that. Stop trying to talk your way out of it and keep leeching off the system.

Plus it says your Location is Canada, so why the fuck in this topic anyway? You all get everything handed to you anyways, so I wouldn't expect you to understand really.

Besides, stop going off topic. I never said anyone was more entitled to anything. I said I don't wanna here those idiots bitching and whining over what amounts to a handout for most of them. Stop trying to exercise "freedom" with TSA at airports when in reality most of them have no fucking clue what freedom is. Half of these dumbass's where prob the same people who rallied for Guantanamo Bay to be closed down/prisoners released. Yeah, way to fight for freedom right there.
 
Unfortunately, Freedom was given through bloodshed.... history has proven that. It's the only way to make a real change.

Peaceful protest and/or arguing doesn't solve much these days.

The Montgomery Bus Boycott of 1955

MLK's speech at Brown in Selma Alabama

The March on Washington.

Any of these things ringing a bell?
 
^^ have to agree, these were people actively doing something to make a change.. not people taking advantage of a handout because they happened to be born here.