Don't know where to start with arbitrage?

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Some people spend way too much time reading the forums but they still don't know how to start, so this thread should help the newbs get going.

1. Get lerchmo's free arbitrage script stickied at the top of this forum..

2. Install that shit on your server

3. Make a list of 50 niches to do first... doesn't matter what. Just fucking do it. Use google.com/trends, yahoo buzz, lycos top 50, digg, reddit, msn, yahoo, etc. to help you find ideas.

4. Using those niches, make 50 pages using lerchmo's script. Be sure to copy the URL to a spreadsheet or something so that you can easily keep track of it.

5. Use Google AdWords Keyword Tool to generate search keywords by submitting your niches. Make a folder on your desktop and save each keyword list (.csv) to it.
- If you wanna go further, use Setec's buy keyword script and run your keywords through there so you have an even bigger list.
- And Aaron Wall's typo generator...

6. Create a new campaign with MSN AdCenter (or whatever PPC you wanna use) and make your ad copies. Write your ad copy so that it's somewhat related to the AdSense/YPN ads that are showing up on your shitty arbitrage pages.
- Add the keywords for each niche that you have saved on your desktop
- Make your bids... I started out with $0.05 for all keywords and I made a profit. Experiment and see what works for you...
Here's a $100 AdCenter coupon for those of you that don't have money to spend.

That's how I started out and it worked so there's no reason why it shouldn't work for the newbs. Do that everyday, watch your stats, see what works, experiment with the layout, and you should be fine.

Hope that helps!

If you're not making at least $5-$10/day with this method.. there's something wrong with you o_O

Note: The reason I didn't list 7search or SearchFeed was because I tried that out the first few weeks I did arbitrage and their traffic/volume fucking sucks ass. You can try it if you want though...
 


logiik;
How are you finding Adcenter's volume to be for traffic that cheap so far? I haven't really tested Adcenter with my arbi yet. Just started with 7search in the beginning, and moved slowly over to Adwords.

Obviously, MSN has a much bigger traffic volume overall than 7search. But what I'm curious about is a comparison of how many daily hits you would get from EACH of those two engines, for the SAME keyword - paying the same amount for clicks at each place? :)
 
i'm not logiik but for about a dozen campaigns i "copied" from 7search to adwords, i'm getting less hits from adwords at same price. can even raise my bid and still not get as many. i'll know about adcenter in a few days as i just started putting my $200 coupon to good use.
 
I'm with Jened. I actually seem to get more volume and higher quality traffic from 7Search than Adcenter.
 
One other point about Adcenter. The biggest problem I have found is there are so many free coupons out there that people are jacking the bids way up.
 
george - i am hoping that i can work on my landing pages and increase their quality score, thus lowering my bid because i'd rather depend on google than 7search for traffic. 7search hasn't screwed me over cause i don't have total crap mfa landing pages but their lowering of #keywords per account is a pain.
 
logiik;
How are you finding Adcenter's volume to be for traffic that cheap so far?

MSN's traffic volume is very small (compared with Adwords). I haven't tried 7search so can't compare.

Most of my arb pages with about 100 to 200 keywords each get on average 5 to 10 visitors per day.

However if you work the long tail and do lots of targeted pages, you can get a decent amount of visitors for 5 cents a click. More importantly, if you set up your arb pages right, you'll get a lot of Adcents clicks. My latest arb layouts get about 70% clickthrough (average for all pages), like for every 100 visitors from MSN, i get 70 clicks on Adsense . The rest either leave the page or click on an aff banner ( I include one semi-related aff banner every page.)

Also, if you fill your arb pages with ACTUAL USEFUL information, some of them save it or bookmark it and click ads again, days after. With Adwords, most of the same arb pages seem to become one-shot deals, not with MSN.
 
7Search

How is 7Search different than the other 3rd Tier PPC engines (kanoodle, enhance, ask, miva). Seems like a lot of people use it here. I've had bad experiences with both kanoodle and enhance.
 
This has been said a hundred times here already, but again: Stay the fuck away from Miva. People aren't too happy about enhance or Ask either. Even Looksmart and Searchfeed is supposed to suck but I haven't tried them.

I'm thinking about testing Yahoo for arbi traffic though.
 
i don't really think that, i just tell everyone else that so they will think that, and then i can get a bigger share of the pizza pie. PEPPERONI BIATCH!
 
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