Family law judge beats own daughter for using the internet.

She should have laid on her stomach, received her whip, done.

No, her dad should have just grown up a little bit, and became a responsible parent.

Again, he's lucky that was his daughter, not his son. My dad came at me once when I was 14. He grabbed my neck, I swung, he ended up a swollen & black eye for a week (I was surprised I could punch that hard). It's the one and only time he ever tried it though. After that, we'd ignore each other until the emotions calmed, then talk it out like responsible adults.

Smacking your kids to inflict emotional pain so they remember it is one thing, but he's obviously trying to inflict physical pain, which is something you don't do. It doesn't help solve anything, and only makes things worse. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that your kid isn't going to respect you more if you beat the shit out of him/her. That's what weak minded pussies with the IQ of gerbils do.
 


I just don't think this "beating" was that bad. I guess I see some of myself in her and know what shes trying to pull when not listening to authority. Just turn around, I did the same shit, as I said.
The beating wasn't that bad if your standards are still low enough to be ok with any beatings at all. Yes, I pulled the same shit too when I was a child but now I've grown up and I abhor it all.

Frankly even a proper, anger-free spanking shows nothing to the child but a loss of other parenting skills.

Another thing to note.... We only know what we see on video. This could be only 5% of the story for better or worse.
Stop making excuses for them. Even if you're 100% right it's still just an excuse to perpetuate the failed system.
 
loyolabenson, any beating is "that bad". If someone hit you like that, with a belt, as an adult, would you find it painful? Would it leave marks? It's the same with a child, only they have a lower understanding of the whys and what fors. This is the sort of shit that causes issues in adulthood. It's not punishment, it's physical abuse.

If a grown man was doing that to an adult female on the street, he would get put down, badly. If a grown man did it to another grown man, I would expect most wouldn't be bothered, but I expect someone would call the police, as it's an act of violence.

Just because you were beaten and consider it OK, for whatever reason, it's fucking not. No child deserves a beating (I wouldn't say I'm completely against the odd smack) but this video is the kind of abuse that, when I was a child, was taught to be worthy of reporting to Childline (a charity in the UK).
 
Negative reinforcement works.

Just not in the way daddy and mommy demonstrated in the video.
 
Worthy of reporting to Childline (a charity in the UK).

I don't know about the UK, but I'd rather be beat than go to a group home here in the US.


Growing up I was beat with a razor strop. When that finally broke (yes, it fucking broke on my ass) I would get literally knocked the fuck out. Once I was shackled to a 100 pound dumbbell so I couldn't run and another time I was tied to a tree. In retrospect I was pretty abused, but I think I also deserved a lot of it, because of how I was acting. I pretty much drove my dad to the brink of madness with everything I was doing.

However, I'd never do that to my kids. I agree with lukep here. I think there are other ways of handling the situation that are better and have more positive long term effects.
 
She probably kept getting abused over the years and finally getting away from her father and feels safe releasing the video now.

She's gonna get her pops killed...

He deserves it, or at least raped in prison.

So let me get this right...

Kid breaks the law
Dad tells her to bend over for a spanking
Kid is too retarded to bend over so gets hit on the arm/leg
Kid cries
Mother tells kid to bend over
Kid bends over and gets spanked, and it's basically over
Kid records and fucks his dads career over

Am I meant to feel sorry for the kid?

She finally bends over for her mother, gets hit. Mother says thank you. Then the father comes back in and starts hitting her. Why should she trust her parents to bend over after that? She just bent over to get hit and she is still getting hit over and over after she did what she was told.

On another note, remember Kazaa? damn, heard the mother mention it. I totally forgot about that program haha
 
I just don't think this "beating" was that bad.

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Another thing to note.... We only know what we see on video. This could be only 5% of the story for better or worse.

Most parents would never consider doing that unless she had just raped her grandmother or something. Even then, beating her isn't going to help her. It would just screw up her head more and create more anger inside her, which eventually leads to her doing more bad stuff.
 
I just don't think this "beating" was that bad. I guess I see some of myself in her and know what shes trying to pull when not listening to authority. Just turn around, I did the same shit, as I said.
I hope you are never allowed to have kids.

Submission through physical means is NEVER acceptable.
 
If the only way you can make your children respect you is by resorting to fear & violence, you have failed badly as a parent.

Every time you raise your hand against a child, you are admitting you've run out of ideas (or patience) for dealing with them.

My parents were generally awesome, but my dad hit me (with open hand, not a belt) occasionally, and it only ever made things worse. I know that he did it because couldn't think of another way to deal with my violent behaviour. I used to get hit at school as well for the same reason.

The problem is that hitting someone for being violent is like shouting at them for talking too loudly. You're setting a tacit example that what they're doing is actually both acceptable and effective.

Being hit just added resentment, humiliation and desire for revenge into the mix, and made my fits of rage work. It also taught me that when you're frustrated, hitting people is a viable option. It took me until my late 20s to overcome that.

I forgive my parents, because hitting children was the normal way of discipline in the 70s and 80s. Luckily, we (in the UK at least) live in more enlightened times. Hitting children is quite rightfully classed as assault. I'm glad, because if I ever did that to my daughter, I'd be mortified.
 
Probably going to get vilified for my opinion.

It is VERY easy to trash the father for the spanking and I agree he was a over the top somewhat. However, really listen to the interaction in the video.

The father says: You've lied, cheated and stolen. From now on you do not disrespect your mother and me anymore. You watch your tone of voice. You think I was kidding? etc. etc. etc..

To me that shows there was a LOT more going on then simply playing computer games.

This tirade, looked to me like a father that has absolutely had it and this spanking was his last resort. From what I gather, this is a father at his absolute lowest point and darkest moment.

If I take a camera, get you riled up and then video your actions 'out of context' what will you think?

Parenthood is the toughest but most rewarding job you can have. Most parents are trying their absolute best to raise children, give them the most opportunities and give them a great chance at 'life'.

But unless you have/had a hormonal, pms'ing teenage daughter you have no idea what kind of hell he is going through. (Yeah, yeah, I know... seriously, I always had an opinion on other folks raising their kids until I was blessed with my 3 daughters).

Imagine your little girl turning from a sweet little girl one day to turning into a complete bitch the next. 99% of the time they don't even know themselves 'why'. They get lippy all of a sudden, testing their boundaries and almost like a pack of wolves start challenging you EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

A simple request turns into:

Father "Hey, it's 9:30pm - please turn off the TV and get ready for bed"
Daughter "Why do I have to get ready for bed at 9:30pm? Laurie's dad let's her stay up til 10pm. And I want to watch the rest of the show."
Father "It's a school day and we need to get up early in the morning"
Daughter "So what? You let me stay up until midnight the other day and I was fine. I want to finish to watch this show!!!!"
Father "Honey, please - 9:30pm those are the rules. Please go to bed"
Daughter "You and your f'ing rules, I hate you!! You are constantly ruining my life!!! You didn't let me stay out with Billy the other night either and now he is looking to hook up with Julie cause HER dad lets her stay out til midnight"
Father: "????"
Daugther "Screaming, yelling, crying... tantrum"
Father "???"

There is NO instruction manual for being a parent and you have to fracking wing it... However, EVERYONE has a fracking opinion on what you are doing wrong.
 
If the only way you can make your children respect you is by resorting to fear & violence, you have failed badly as a parent.

Every time you raise your hand against a child, you are admitting you've run out of ideas (or patience) for dealing with them.

My parents were generally awesome, but my dad hit me (with open hand, not a belt) occasionally, and it only ever made things worse. I know that he did it because couldn't think of another way to deal with my violent behaviour. I used to get hit at school as well for the same reason.

The problem is that hitting someone for being violent is like shouting at them for talking too loudly. You're setting a tacit example that what they're doing is actually both acceptable and effective.

Being hit just added resentment, humiliation and desire for revenge into the mix, and made my fits of rage work. It also taught me that when you're frustrated, hitting people is a viable option. It took me until my late 20s to overcome that.

I forgive my parents, because hitting children was the normal way of discipline in the 70s and 80s. Luckily, we (in the UK at least) live in more enlightened times. Hitting children is quite rightfully classed as assault. I'm glad, because if I ever did that to my daughter, I'd be mortified.

Agree with 95%. How old is your daughter?
 
Want to know the worst punishment I got as a kid? My parents would stop talking to me. You know, I'd get home from school, help do the laundry, clean up, get things ready for dinner, etc. Then my mom would come home from work, and I wouldn't even be able to say hi to my own mom. I'd just get a glazed over, disappointed look from her, as if she didn't even care if I was alive or dead.

That hurt, and actually made me think about things, and want to do better. Especially since I knew it was hurting her alot more than me. If she just grabbed a belt and started swinging, that wouldn't have helped anything. It would have just made me pissed off, bitter, and violent.
 
Loyol: I had a bad upbringing too. My parents both hit me, sometimes with fists.

Fists are entirely unacceptable. When you go that far, it's pure rage.

In the case of this video, the bitch being disobedient increased her dads rage, she knew what would happen. If someone bigger and stronger starts to beat on you, you offer them the path of least resistance, and the pain will stop.

Besides all of this, it looked like the girl planted the hidden camera, which makes it likely she knew she was going to get a beating. If I was planning on recording a beating for revenge, I sure as fuck would put up a fight to make the beating looked worse than normal.

P.S. 16 year old GIRL that isn't a little bitch to her parents... lulz
 
Probably going to get vilified for my opinion.

It is VERY easy to trash the father for the spanking and I agree he was a over the top somewhat. However, really listen to the interaction in the video.

The father says: You've lied, cheated and stolen. From now on you do not disrespect your mother and me anymore. You watch your tone of voice. You think I was kidding? etc. etc. etc..

To me that shows there was a LOT more going on then simply playing computer games.

This tirade, looked to me like a father that has absolutely had it and this spanking was his last resort. From what I gather, this is a father at his absolute lowest point and darkest moment.

If I take a camera, get you riled up and then video your actions 'out of context' what will you think?

Parenthood is the toughest but most rewarding job you can have. Most parents are trying their absolute best to raise children, give them the most opportunities and give them a great chance at 'life'.

But unless you have/had a hormonal, pms'ing teenage daughter you have no idea what kind of hell he is going through. (Yeah, yeah, I know... seriously, I always had an opinion on other folks raising their kids until I was blessed with my 3 daughters).

Imagine your little girl turning from a sweet little girl one day to turning into a complete bitch the next. 99% of the time they don't even know themselves 'why'. They get lippy all of a sudden, testing their boundaries and almost like a pack of wolves start challenging you EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

A simple request turns into:

Father "Hey, it's 9:30pm - please turn off the TV and get ready for bed"
Daughter "Why do I have to get ready for bed at 9:30pm? Laurie's dad let's her stay up til 10pm. And I want to watch the rest of the show."
Father "It's a school day and we need to get up early in the morning"
Daughter "So what? You let me stay up until midnight the other day and I was fine. I want to finish to watch this show!!!!"
Father "Honey, please - 9:30pm those are the rules. Please go to bed"
Daughter "You and your f'ing rules, I hate you!! You are constantly ruining my life!!! You didn't let me stay out with Billy the other night either and now he is looking to hook up with Julie cause HER dad lets her stay out til midnight"
Father: "????"
Daugther "Screaming, yelling, crying... tantrum"
Father "???"

There is NO instruction manual for being a parent and you have to fracking wing it... However, EVERYONE has a fracking opinion on what you are doing wrong.
pretty much all of this
 
Fists are entirely unacceptable. When you go that far, it's pure rage.

In the case of this video, the bitch being disobedient increased her dads rage, she knew what would happen. If someone bigger and stronger starts to beat on you, you offer them the path of least resistance, and the pain will stop.

Besides all of this, it looked like the girl planted the hidden camera, which makes it likely she knew she was going to get a beating. If I was planning on recording a beating for revenge, I sure as fuck would put up a fight to make the beating looked worse than normal.

P.S. 16 year old GIRL that isn't a little bitch to her parents... lulz

would you stop making so much sense? This is EXACTLY what she did.




and NO parent should use fists, agreed. That is way past the line.
 
A simple request turns into:

Father "Hey, it's 9:30pm - please turn off the TV and get ready for bed"
Daughter "Why do I have to get ready for bed at 9:30pm? Laurie's dad let's her stay up til 10pm. And I want to watch the rest of the show."
Father "It's a school day and we need to get up early in the morning"
Daughter "So what? You let me stay up until midnight the other day and I was fine. I want to finish to watch this show!!!!"
Father "Honey, please - 9:30pm those are the rules. Please go to bed"
Daughter "You and your f'ing rules, I hate you!! You are constantly ruining my life!!! You didn't let me stay out with Billy the other night either and now he is looking to hook up with Julie cause HER dad lets her stay out til midnight"
Father: "????"
Daugther "Screaming, yelling, crying... tantrum"
Father "???"

There is NO instruction manual for being a parent and you have to fracking wing it... However, EVERYONE has a fracking opinion on what you are doing wrong.



Hahahhahaha I really really dont want a teenage kid in my life now ;)
 
I'll just leave here for the tards in this thread who think they are special... (I didn't write it)

I grew up in Australia. Australian men generally accept masculinity far better than American men, and I understand why this is. In every country on earth where boys play, there is a ritual of selecting members of each team, whether the game is soccer, cricket, football, baseball, kickball, mammoth-hunting, what have you. Most boys, at some time, have experienced the humiliation of being picked last, and it hurts. Even being picked second-last is much more tolerable than being picked last. It hurts� what is important, and culturally distinct, is how the boy deals with that pain and humiliation, when he's the one picked last.

In Australia, boys strive to be an asset to the team that picks them. They actually care more about how their team does than how they feel. This isn't ego annihilation, and it's not fascism. While playing the game, the game is what's important, not one's own petty issues. If a boy can table his own issues sufficiently to make a good catch, or kick a goal, he'll get picked sooner next time. He knows this. It's a question of priorities: the team wants to win, and they will pick those kids who will make it more likely that their team will win. How each individual feels during this process is irrelevant to the overall goal. Be dependable, be an asset to the team, and the rest of the team will take care of you.

In Australia, there is the concept of mates. The word loosely translates as "friend", but the truth is that Americans lack the concept completely. Your mate has your back, and you have his. Your mates help define you, and accept you unconditionally. Once you're in, you're in for life. It's not easy to get in. When I was nine, I had a kid who used to annoy me mercilessly on the playground. One day, I had had enough of his picking on me, and I knocked him over with a punch. He got up, shook himself off, and shook my hand. "We're having a party this weekend. Here's where it is."

I was still really angry, and I didn't immediately understand what he was doing. He wanted to know that I would stick up for myself when provoked. He needed to know if, after he was my mate, I'd stand up for him. Once he found out that I'd stand up for myself, I was in. At that party, everyone there treated me like a mate, and I felt more included than I ever did before, and I never got selected last for any game again at that school.

American boys don't have this. The best have a much weaker version of this, but the commitment is conditional and halting, the bonds constantly tested by vicious games of conformity and obedience. Maybe men at war have the real thing, but I have no experience of this. Coming back to the USA, I had to teach my male friends to be mates, and it never came naturally to any of my new friends. I have American mates now, some of whom I've been friends with for twenty years, but it took an enormous amount of work, and included really rocky periods, and a lot of struggle. New people I meet, especially younger people, have no understanding of what it means to be a mate. Friendships, especially among young people, are temporary, fleeting, strategic. They exist in order to jockey for social position. American men seem treacherous, insecure, and ungrounded in comparison to Aussie men. It's killing us as a society. It's one of the great tragedies of our time.

When an American boy gets picked last at a game on the playground, he gives up on ever being selected by the other boys, except last. He retreats into self-pity and misanthropy. This is encouraged by the adults, especially his parents, doubly especially when his dad made the same choices about being picked last himself. This boy tries to create a new playing field where he is the top of the selection. Because he knows he cannot compete on the playing field, he tries to compete in intellectual pursuits, or in a fantasy world, or in fandom. He collects comic books, or plays Dungeons & Dragons, or plays video games. Maybe he learns science, or literature, or art, or music. It never occurs to him to strive to improve himself, to make himself an asset to the team that might choose him. It never occurs to him that a drama is unfolding on a level bigger than that of his individual ego.

When adolescence hits, this boy tries to be cool. He creates a new pecking order based around musical taste, or fashion, or obscure knowledge. He tries out for the school play, or joins the debate team, or starts a band, or joins the school's literary magazine, and tries to win approval through his creativity and intelligence. There is nothing inherently wrong with seeking approval through these channels, but the boy still has a chip on his shoulder about rejection. He strives to create not merely a new selection where he is on top, but a new selection where the kids who are successful at the old games are rejected here. He seeks to be even crueler than he thinks those other kids are� to cut them down before they can hurt him again. He doesn't realize that being rejected from the alternative he has just created doesn't hurt at all, really. His ego depends upon being top of some pecking order, even an imaginary one, and he will viciously defend his new status, especially by being cruel to those who are lower down on his new pecking order. He becomes an asshole, but it's everyone else's fault but his.

Ultimately, this is what it means to be cool, to be indie, to be avant-garde, to be hip. As a young punk rocker, I was saved from this insanity because I grew up in a small town where weirdos got their asses beat. In order to be weird, you had to band together and watch each other's backs. We had to trust each other in a fight, or we'd all get stomped. It was ugly, it was nasty, and it was exhausting, but at the end of the day, you really knew who your friends were. A realistic selection sprung up based on whether you were worth saving when everyone got jumped by rednecks. You sized up new potential friends for their value in dragging you out from under a half dozen pairs of steel-toed Doc Martins when the Nazi skinheads broke up your hardcore show. (I like traditional skinheads, but the Nazi skins suck ass). When the bored, redneck small-town cops harassed us for being weird, you needed to know your friends had your back when you split up and ran.

The point is that every boy and every man needs to know his friends chose him. It's hard-wired into our brains. We need to know that we were worth picking, that we're valued for what we contribute to the people around us. We need it in our jobs, in our friendships, and in our relationships. Those boys and men who never get chosen, who never become the people anyone would want on their side, are damaged goods. They're not really cool, they're undeveloped. No tattoo or piercing, no leather jacket or pair of glasses, no boots or records or novels or comic books or mp3s or posters or t-shirts; no commodity of any kind is going to make a pair of balls occur where they wouldn't anyway.

We live in an advertising culture where we are constantly told that the only thing that stands between our current state and wholeness is a particular commodity. It's the central lie of our culture, and the people who hate mainstream culture the most seem to cling to this lie the most intensely. Notice how many "alternative" people define their non-conformity by how readily they conform to an alternate standard? How they buy objects that articulate their rebellion for them? It has become so ingrained in our culture that the current crop of teenagers makes no distinction between consumption and expression. They are frustrated that consumption alienates them from their own feelings and desires, but they express that frustration by consuming more commodities. It's a vicious circle. Let go. Quit being cool.
 
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