And text can't have a tone? Books can't have tone? Posts? Mute point.
By your regular tone, it is not surprising you laugh at the idea of a mere mortal giving you advice.
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And text can't have a tone? Books can't have tone? Posts? Mute point.
By your regular tone, it is not surprising you laugh at the idea of a mere mortal giving you advice.
Thank goodness the government was kind enough to give you freedoms, for we know that freedom only exists when government grants it to the people.
Is the UK still pursuing their ridiculous network of security cameras?
Actually, it came about because we Brits voted in a landslide govt in 1997 that had a large enough majority to do what we wanted them to do! Plus they'd been out of power for a long time, and hence were idealistic. That first period 1997-2001 was close to a perfect govt.
Then power starts to corrupt, and their performance started to deteriorate and you get faced with a dilemma. Do you throw them out, in which case you get the other lot in (who have recently been in govt and are therefore used to power and not idealistic at all), or do you give the govt with a goodish record a second chance. They were voted back in, and then went to war in Iraq against the wishes of the people (and with the votes of the opposition - 135 Labour MPs rebelled in the war motion, which should have been enough to scupper the whole thing if the Tories hadn't voted in favour).
Ideally for a democracy, there'd be a constant supply of new parties springing up, full of enthusiasm and idealism, whom you'd place in govt as long as the idealism was strong and then threw out before power got to them. Alas it isn't so in the current world.
But don't kid yourself - even stone age tribes had governments and I bet people moaned about them then too. The idea that we all existed in perfect freedom at some point is completely false.
In Britain the trajectory has been from being invaded in 1066 by a vicious tyrant who loved to tax and seize and confiscate property (the Doomesday Book was so called because it was used to exact taxes), to where we are now, which is a much better place.
At first you were like:
But then you were like:
But don't you get it? Guerilla is like beyond human. When he calls someone an idiot, it isn't a personal attack, it is a scientific fact! (he actually claims this somewhere)
But if anyone calls him that, we have no idea of what we are talking about, so we are therefore conducting a personal attack.
Duh! Can't you people get it? We aren't dealing with a normal person, but a super human sent from heaven to guide us to the light!
It is a shame though, the guy is smart, he just is very much full of himself:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM9jhGiIAFM]South Park s10e02 - Enjoying the smell of your own farts - YouTube[/ame]
Ah yes, forgot that was Cromwell. Touche.
My point still stands though; You're less free today than at some point previous like under James I.
Did you see the BBC doc Century of the Self? It's about American marketing and Propoganda throughout the 1900s but the last quarter of it shows how we infected the Iron Lady's as well as Blaire's campaigns. I believe that influence is what did you blokes in.
I just linked to it in the vote fraud thread here.
You'd be wrong. That vote fraud thread has all kinds of proof in it of how our votes no longer count... Unless you vote for the establishment. (Romney and Obama are both funded by the same banks and corps.)
A vote in america is worth a fart in a bean factory. Paulites are finding that out the hard way as you speak, so to change anything important now there would have to be a major revolution; Perhaps just a Coup.
I'd be a fool to throw that away of course, it's damn useful while travelling. And when the draft is on I will be happy to not use it anymore, as would I be happy to shelve it for the years america is fighting its' next civil war or revolution. Perhaps they'll have some good cuisine there when the smoke has cleared... Who knows?
James I ran a police state too - he just wasn't so hard on the taverns and theatres. He had a vendetta against Catholics (didn't like Jews much either) and Guy Fawkes was tortured on the rack to extract his confession.
They were all freaking horrible - William the Conqueror, Henry VIII, Charles I, James I, George III, the lot of them. And they taxed and spent in a way to put modern govts to shame.
That's what I'm trying to get at. This idea that there was a time in the past where we were all perfectly free is completely false.
Now is the best time, fewer people are oppressed today than have been in the past - think women, black people, poor people, jewish people, people who were smarter than the king, people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, people with impeccable credentials who might have property the king coveted, or even the king himself, snuffed out like a candle because news of the death making the newspaper schedules on time was important according to the govt of the day!
People need to stop thinking about some mythical non-existent past and think about what they can reasonably achieve right now, and if sufficient people vote for stuff it will happen regardless of what vote fraud takes place - the more people who vote a certain way, the harder it gets to fiddle votes in the other direction.
You missed my point. The government doesn't give you freedom--you have an inherent right to freedom. All the government does is give you back a small portion of what they have stolen from you. Just because it's less bad than the tyrants does not mean it's good.
You shouldn't have to continually vote people in and out just so you can be free.
And who's idea was that? Not mine. We were getting a bit sidetracked.
You seem to think that because I'm arguing for no government here that I believe there was a time when no government existed. I know Damn well that the governments got more evil the further back you go all the way to when we were still tree monkeys, but that doesn't make them right.
Arguing for governments is the same as arguing for religions that way. Just because they've always been used as tools of order & enslavement doesn't mean that we can't live without them one day.
Personally I feel the internet, if it somehow survives this current onslaught of by the RIAA & MPAA and remains relatively free, will educate the coming generation or five to the point where both religion and government are seen as baby toys to be put away. What a great world that will be when we have no taxes, no rulers, & no church!
Lack of education is the only thing stopping us from going fully AnCap one day. But to get there we're obviously going to have to go through a bloody period of overthrowing the states. Hopefully the military will get smarter as the populace does too and it doesn't turn out quite that bloody.
If it were just about fiddling with the numbers I'd agree with you. But the problem here is so much worse than that...
1. The schools suck so bad that an american education almost guarantees the majority of voters will vote for whomever is marketed to them the most... If they vote at all.
2. The world's mainstream media outlets are all owned by a few corps that have vested interest in keeping the status quo... So anyone who watches the news on their TV set is sure to receive said marketing, plus a whole lot of propaganda for the current administration.
3. Our Freedom of speech is being rapidly restricted lately because we finally do have a candidate who is willing to speak out against the status quo... This means effective Youtube videos go missing on the one side, (under ACTA, and go missing they do!) and whole PEOPLE can go missing on the other. (Under NDAA)
4. And THEN there's vote fraud. It's as good as proven now but getting the proof into the mainstream media may very well be impossible. The truth is out there and 70% of america will just think Paul's ppl are sore losers with all their rallys and videos that they'll never see, because the media tells them so.
2. The world's mainstream media outlets are all owned by a few corps that have vested interest in keeping the status quo... So anyone who watches the news on their TV set is sure to receive said marketing, plus a whole lot of propaganda for the current administration.
3. Our Freedom of speech is being rapidly restricted lately because we finally do have a candidate who is willing to speak out against the status quo... This means effective Youtube videos go missing on the one side, (under ACTA, and go missing they do!) and whole PEOPLE can go missing on the other. (Under NDAA)
4. And THEN there's vote fraud. It's as good as proven now but getting the proof into the mainstream media may very well be impossible. The truth is out there and 70% of america will just think Paul's ppl are sore losers with all their rallys and videos that they'll never see, because the media tells them so.
Of course I can't prove this, but if all of these factors weren't working against Paul I bet he'd easily get 80% of the popular vote here in my opinion. Easily. It's just inconceivable that anyone not under the MSM's spell (or some other powerful spell like greed or religion) would allow for the big charade to continue.
What's always funny to me is watching people who think they are smart, try to be smart.
Please carry on.
What's always funny to me is watching people who think they are smart, try to be smart.
Please carry on.
Likewise. You're getting more and more entertaining as time goes on.
Imagine how boring WF would be if there were no Adderall or Alex Jones bs... Boringsauce x1948.
